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Jun 24, 2021, 15:0706/24/21
01/19/21
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Void pulls check

12 voids and I managed to hit the 10% chance of not getting anything but rares. Yay. Anyway, just looking for some opinions on the crop to see if I missed any hidden gems.

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So in no particular order...

  • Fanatic will be kept for now as my only Shadowkin champ, but probably confined to FW since he seems decent enough though I'm not sure I have room for him elsewhere. 
  • Coldheart good, is actually my 2nd one, so she'll probably go into my spider team along with her twin.  
  • Paragon works as a spider tank from what I've heard, anyone got experience with that and how to make it work?

Not really sure what to do with the rest of them. Already had a Doomscreech, so the extra 2 would just be books. Ripperfist and Panthera seem like decent FK candidates, but also superfluous when I already have 2x Coldhearts. Eviscerator look to be pretty niche and not really useful in general. Bloodhorn might be useful for fusing another Broadmaw. Dilgol, Ox and Marquis I'm not really sure what to do with.

So, am I overlooking something here? Are any of them particularly useful for FW?

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Jun 24, 2021, 15:2706/24/21
04/14/20
1343

Dilgol is quite good - with all his multi-hit abilities, could work for FW, or anywhere that you need AOE decrease accuracy (certain arena and DT fights). Panthera probably only for FW and even there I found her disappointing so far, not sure I'll bother to 6* her. 

Paragon is probably the only champion in the game who is best with as low a level as possible, because his HP should be as low as possible - makes it easier to ensure enemies target him while he remains permanently unkillable. So don't level him up (he does need books). And for the most part you'd need to play him manually, so he's not really a reliable spider tank overall, just a cheap way of getting through stages you otherwise can't pass, like for many people spider 19. Or nightmare campaign 12-7 (make sure your other champion is tanky enough to survive the waves and yet has enough DPS to win the stage within 10 minutes). 

Jun 24, 2021, 15:5006/24/21
06/25/20
6636

You can also put Paragon alone on your arena def teams with a high amount of speed, to just really really annoy your opponents :)

Jun 24, 2021, 15:5306/24/21
04/10/21
356
kramaswamy.kr

You can also put Paragon alone on your arena def teams with a high amount of speed, to just really really annoy your opponents :)

I saw someone do that once... Shaman time!!!!!!!!!!!!😎

Jun 24, 2021, 16:0806/24/21
01/19/21
642
L9753

Dilgol is quite good - with all his multi-hit abilities, could work for FW, or anywhere that you need AOE decrease accuracy (certain arena and DT fights). Panthera probably only for FW and even there I found her disappointing so far, not sure I'll bother to 6* her. 

Paragon is probably the only champion in the game who is best with as low a level as possible, because his HP should be as low as possible - makes it easier to ensure enemies target him while he remains permanently unkillable. So don't level him up (he does need books). And for the most part you'd need to play him manually, so he's not really a reliable spider tank overall, just a cheap way of getting through stages you otherwise can't pass, like for many people spider 19. Or nightmare campaign 12-7 (make sure your other champion is tanky enough to survive the waves and yet has enough DPS to win the stage within 10 minutes). 

Mm, I already got myself a Hurndig though, so Dilgol's kit is a bit on the redundant side. He could work as a filler for FW, but I suspect by the time it becomes relevant I'll have other options.

Having read up on Paragon a bit, apparently his unkillable is unreliable in targeting, which is a shame. Still, I guess he'll be useful for getting me to spider 20 where Drexthar can take over the tanking duties on auto. I'm thinking Drexthar for tanking, a healer (looks like Sethallia is my best bet right now) to keep him alive, a debuffer (Serris at the moment) and the 2 Coldhearts might make for an interesting Spider 20 team. Possibly swap out healer for more damage if I can get away with it, we'll see.

Jun 24, 2021, 16:2206/24/21
12/19/19
6280

I thought you were going to ask for a check on the void mercy system.... that's what I want lol.  Been a year + and 50-60 voids opened in last week...

As for your pulls, I think paragon for cheesing and a 2nd CH down the road (not immediate priority as u won't need 2 for 20).  Wouldn't build anything for FW at your stage.

Jun 24, 2021, 16:2706/24/21
01/19/21
642
Trips

I thought you were going to ask for a check on the void mercy system.... that's what I want lol.  Been a year + and 50-60 voids opened in last week...

As for your pulls, I think paragon for cheesing and a 2nd CH down the road (not immediate priority as u won't need 2 for 20).  Wouldn't build anything for FW at your stage.

Nah, I'm not building anything specifically for FW yet. It's more a question of which ones to build, which ones to keep for later, and which ones to use for food/books. I mostly just stick the ones I keep in the sparring pits if I have nothing better to use the slots for, and as filler for FW.

Jun 24, 2021, 16:5806/24/21
06/25/20
6636
EGDNIT

Mm, I already got myself a Hurndig though, so Dilgol's kit is a bit on the redundant side. He could work as a filler for FW, but I suspect by the time it becomes relevant I'll have other options.

Having read up on Paragon a bit, apparently his unkillable is unreliable in targeting, which is a shame. Still, I guess he'll be useful for getting me to spider 20 where Drexthar can take over the tanking duties on auto. I'm thinking Drexthar for tanking, a healer (looks like Sethallia is my best bet right now) to keep him alive, a debuffer (Serris at the moment) and the 2 Coldhearts might make for an interesting Spider 20 team. Possibly swap out healer for more damage if I can get away with it, we'll see.

Paragon will pretty much always target the person with the lowest hp - which is why keeping him low leveled and undergeared makes him so useful

Jun 24, 2021, 17:0306/24/21
01/19/21
642
kramaswamy.kr

Paragon will pretty much always target the person with the lowest hp - which is why keeping him low leveled and undergeared makes him so useful

I mean, that's what I would've assumed, but based on what people have been saying that's not the case. If he actually does and he can be used on auto, then great. I would probably kit him in full unupgraded resist gear just for the set bonus though, just to minimize the risk of being disabled.

Jun 24, 2021, 17:2506/24/21
12/19/19
6280
EGDNIT

I mean, that's what I would've assumed, but based on what people have been saying that's not the case. If he actually does and he can be used on auto, then great. I would probably kit him in full unupgraded resist gear just for the set bonus though, just to minimize the risk of being disabled.

I tried paragon on 12.7 nm about a week ago and didn't seem to work on auto.  was able to cheese it manual, but was too slow... i was pissed and still haven't tried again lol

Jun 24, 2021, 20:1106/24/21
06/01/21
54
Trips

I tried paragon on 12.7 nm about a week ago and didn't seem to work on auto.  was able to cheese it manual, but was too slow... i was pissed and still haven't tried again lol

For campaing u must run on manual.

Howerver for Spider setups, there is a trick, u can use a 2nd champion for tanking (someone with reduce turnmeter preferently). And Parangon with high HP and DEF, so in auto he ALWAYS will put inmortal to the tank, and spiderlings will always atack the tank. That way u can easily run in this dungeon. U need get enought sustain/damage/turn meter reduce with the other 3 members on your team.

Jun 24, 2021, 20:1506/24/21
04/14/20
1343
EGDNIT

Mm, I already got myself a Hurndig though, so Dilgol's kit is a bit on the redundant side. He could work as a filler for FW, but I suspect by the time it becomes relevant I'll have other options.

Having read up on Paragon a bit, apparently his unkillable is unreliable in targeting, which is a shame. Still, I guess he'll be useful for getting me to spider 20 where Drexthar can take over the tanking duties on auto. I'm thinking Drexthar for tanking, a healer (looks like Sethallia is my best bet right now) to keep him alive, a debuffer (Serris at the moment) and the 2 Coldhearts might make for an interesting Spider 20 team. Possibly swap out healer for more damage if I can get away with it, we'll see.

Sethallia works quite well on spider 20, yes. Can be switched out once you have a MM to provide shields along with his damage and CC, but until then you probably do need a healer. On auto, it's likely that the spider will take some turns, which might do enough damage to your CHs to get one of them targeted instead of Drex, leading to a failed run, if you don't have a healer to clean things up. Serris isn't the best debuffer for spider (or for most dungeons really), Stag Knight for instance would be better, but I guess she'll do. 

Jun 24, 2021, 21:2306/24/21
01/15/21
1181

All 11 were rares here too, but last week i pulled a few voids trying for warlord and got psylar which i guess reset my counter again...its frustrating as i have zero use for psylar and she will never get levelled...i got a paragon too today --small world

As for your pulls, i have found dilgol underwhelming to be honest even in FW, doomscreech is good as you know (if you already have one)

Gratz on another CH, id love a second.

Jun 24, 2021, 23:0406/24/21
02/29/20
609

Coldheart?  What  Coldheart?  I'd  love  a  Coldheart.

Jun 29, 2021, 20:0506/29/21
Jun 29, 2021, 20:06(edited)
09/20/20
7

600 voids 3 Legend heros ! Where X 2 ? 


Jun 29, 2021, 20:3406/29/21
06/01/21
54

Tecnically speaking, u have just 1% in x2 time....

Pity start from shard 200 (+5% from there for each extra fragment, so 100% guaranteed is after 20 more fragment) , so 3 legos... is a crap yeah... but could be even worse...

You can spend 220 + 220 + 219 = 659 shards... and only get 2 legos, the third one is guaranteed in shard #660.

and the fourth lego, in the worst case, will come in shard #880.

Of course... this should be the worst RNG LUCK ever seen!... but possible... yes.

Jun 30, 2021, 15:0506/30/21
Jun 30, 2021, 15:11(edited)
09/20/20
7
FedeNow

Tecnically speaking, u have just 1% in x2 time....

Pity start from shard 200 (+5% from there for each extra fragment, so 100% guaranteed is after 20 more fragment) , so 3 legos... is a crap yeah... but could be even worse...

You can spend 220 + 220 + 219 = 659 shards... and only get 2 legos, the third one is guaranteed in shard #660.

and the fourth lego, in the worst case, will come in shard #880.

Of course... this should be the worst RNG LUCK ever seen!... but possible... yes.

its x1 or x2  ..... In x1 you get 1 Leg garanty from 220 shards ! ! Im open before 46 shards whish no legendary heros ! Its 3 Legendary from 220 garanty ! Its not drop for X 2 Im think iv not donaye more en not play more ! ! 600 shards its more from 1000 euro cost  ! ! Im tink the game not legal casino ! All time bugs ! En what about all time dubles ? 1 % in matematic its 1 Legendary from 120 shards 100 % granty ! If its drop 5-6 Legendary Heros im not qwestion ! 

Jun 30, 2021, 17:3406/30/21
09/20/20
7
FedeNow

Tecnically speaking, u have just 1% in x2 time....

Pity start from shard 200 (+5% from there for each extra fragment, so 100% guaranteed is after 20 more fragment) , so 3 legos... is a crap yeah... but could be even worse...

You can spend 220 + 220 + 219 = 659 shards... and only get 2 legos, the third one is guaranteed in shard #660.

and the fourth lego, in the worst case, will come in shard #880.

Of course... this should be the worst RNG LUCK ever seen!... but possible... yes.

if im take me shards before 1 mons its 46 +600 im the x2 .....  where chance for Legendars Heros ? 646-220 -220 -220 .... Its all garanted Legs for x1 

Jun 30, 2021, 18:2506/30/21
06/01/21
54
foxxx111

its x1 or x2  ..... In x1 you get 1 Leg garanty from 220 shards ! ! Im open before 46 shards whish no legendary heros ! Its 3 Legendary from 220 garanty ! Its not drop for X 2 Im think iv not donaye more en not play more ! ! 600 shards its more from 1000 euro cost  ! ! Im tink the game not legal casino ! All time bugs ! En what about all time dubles ? 1 % in matematic its 1 Legendary from 120 shards 100 % granty ! If its drop 5-6 Legendary Heros im not qwestion ! 

The shards needed for a guaranteed lego is the same with or without x2 event.

U need open 200 shards to start add % to the lego chance. Until then u will have 0.5% or 1% each sigle time, until u reach 200 shards (if u werent lucky and got one in the way trought, in that case the count reset and start from zero again).

After the shard 200, u gain 5%. So 200 +19 is = 0.5% or 1% + 95%, almost 100%... not 100%.

I u want 100% guaranteed, u need that extra one... so 220 for a single guaranteed lego, with o or without x2 event.

As simple as that.

Again... u must be really unlucky for be in this situation...


Jun 30, 2021, 18:4306/30/21
01/15/21
1181

I got a few more voids from events and pulled my second void epic (gala longbraids)

So one useless epic from 14 voids, i would have preferred just rares to be honest :)

Jun 30, 2021, 19:0906/30/21
06/01/21
54
Trevor Wilson

I got a few more voids from events and pulled my second void epic (gala longbraids)

So one useless epic from 14 voids, i would have preferred just rares to be honest :)

Sry about that. Rng is real a bitch some times.