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May 9, 2021, 17:3605/09/21
05/03/20
205

Seriously?

I never got a single attack off.


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May 9, 2021, 18:1305/09/21
08/09/20
70

Well there you go.

For every thread started complaining about OP teams with all fully ascended 6* leggos. Doesn't get an attack off against a team with 96k less team power, three epics and a speed aura that offers 11% less of a speed boost, here you go.

It can be done.


May 9, 2021, 18:1705/09/21
12/19/19
6280
Chill_Dawg

Well there you go.

For every thread started complaining about OP teams with all fully ascended 6* leggos. Doesn't get an attack off against a team with 96k less team power, three epics and a speed aura that offers 11% less of a speed boost, here you go.

It can be done.


Lol


May 9, 2021, 18:1905/09/21
May 9, 2021, 18:20(edited)
03/08/21
79

lol nice. Yeah Team Power is a really strange indicator in some cases. Iam 108k and won a defensive match yesterday from a 180k player but lost an offensive match from a 55k who beat my 278 speed High Khatun :D

Lets just say that in general it works quite well and match-up is more important but there are some (plenty?) exceptions

May 9, 2021, 18:2605/09/21
08/09/20
70

Oh, and to the OP, yeah, that's sucks. We've all been there.

I've beaten teams with more than double my 142k speed nukking team and then turned right around and lost to a team with 98k power.

May 9, 2021, 18:2805/09/21
06/25/20
6636

Pretty crazy considering you also have Valk.

But this just demonstrates my biggest complaint with the rating system. Speed is so obviously undervalued in determining champion power ratings.

I really do think a lot of problems with the arena would be fixed by simply doubling, or even tripling the contribution to champion power that speed provides.

May 9, 2021, 18:2805/09/21
05/03/20
205

Team power means absolutely nothing. Or so it would appear. So frustrating. 

May 9, 2021, 18:4005/09/21
08/09/20
70

I think the bigger issue is that people try to guage an opponent based on team power without understanding how it's calculated.

Resist and HP are the main drivers of team power followed by the champions main stat. 

For example, I can swap out my Lyssandra for Mountain King and my team power will jump from 142k to just over 200k, but that team is so much worse in Arena because I need my Lyssandra to do her TM magic to ensure I don't get cut in on. 

I don't have the gear to be properly speed tuned, so I have to synergize differently. 

May 9, 2021, 18:5005/09/21
06/25/20
6636
Chill_Dawg

I think the bigger issue is that people try to guage an opponent based on team power without understanding how it's calculated.

Resist and HP are the main drivers of team power followed by the champions main stat. 

For example, I can swap out my Lyssandra for Mountain King and my team power will jump from 142k to just over 200k, but that team is so much worse in Arena because I need my Lyssandra to do her TM magic to ensure I don't get cut in on. 

I don't have the gear to be properly speed tuned, so I have to synergize differently. 

That only happens because of how low-valued speed is. If speed were higher-valued you wouldn't face that problem.

May 9, 2021, 19:0205/09/21
08/09/20
70
kramaswamy.kr

That only happens because of how low-valued speed is. If speed were higher-valued you wouldn't face that problem.

You're right, but it's not the full story. If all stats were equally valued, then they would be meaningless. 

As it is now, I can get some sort of picture about what stats a potential opponent is prioritizing based on team power, but I still have to look at his champions and how I match up.

IDK, I think it would be boring if all I really needed to look at was team power to know if I was going to win in arena.

May 9, 2021, 19:0705/09/21
10/15/20
869

You can guage it up to a point, if i see a speed aura lead team with say- under 100k power then i know they are probably a speed demon and im more likely to avoid them.

May 9, 2021, 20:1505/09/21
05/03/20
205

Right now the most important metric in arena is speed and it's almost entirely ignored as team power. They need to increase the power value in arena to reflect it and the frustration (at least for me)  would be all but erased.

May 10, 2021, 00:0305/10/21
02/29/20
609

No  Speed  boots  on  account?  Lol

May 10, 2021, 02:1905/10/21
12/19/19
6280

Lol


May 10, 2021, 11:1805/10/21
07/31/20
373

well, you are right when saying Team Power absolute nothing, yes it is. Many people in this forum, reddit never agree with me on everything, no worry, they are ....s

Why it is nothing. Because this game design went to different direction even all developers in Plarium never expected. The first design look down to speed stat, with lower power point and look up to resist + acc which are high point power. 

However when the game go (went) live, players found out in this game speed is everything, well, everything. That makes all power point turn weird, because very high speed champ with very low power point easily defeat a very high resist high power point champ like Flash vs a stupid bear. Anyway, power point is wrong from game designer. 

May 10, 2021, 21:4405/10/21
08/08/20
29

Not going to lie, kinda impressed by that 14K energy...