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May 7, 2021, 20:2605/07/21
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Aothar, Kael or Frozen Banshee

Hey Guys,

i'm still relatively new to the game and figuring things out. I needed help with my Team comp for Brutal CB.


Currently i'm using Kael, Aothar, Valkyrie, Apothecary and Stag Knight.


My question is - I recently got Frozen Banshee, and  am wondering whether i should repace Kael or Aothar with Frozen Banshee. 


Cheers! 

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May 7, 2021, 20:2905/07/21
05/16/19
726

Replace Kael so you lose the 2.5% poisons.

May 7, 2021, 20:3005/07/21
12/19/19
6491

bye bye kael

May 7, 2021, 20:3105/07/21
12/19/19
6491

probably drop aothar as well, wouldn't FB with CA fill enough poisons?  post your roster, u should be moving up to NM at least

May 7, 2021, 20:3505/07/21
10/15/20
871

Frozen banshee is fantastic for clan boss, kael is ok for early game but debuffs are limited on the cb and you dont want the 2.5% poisons taking up space

May 7, 2021, 21:1805/07/21
06/27/20
304

Definitely build Frozen Banshee, then try replacing Kael, Aothar or even Apo or Stag. 

You can close game client to keep a key, good for experiments even if slightly abusive.

If your team is not speed tuned, it's the best way to increase damage. May even try to skip Brutal and tune for NM, Valkyrie is a beast.

May 7, 2021, 22:0805/07/21
May 7, 2021, 22:15(edited)
12/17/20
50

I  have  kind  of  the  same  compo  and  Aothar  does  way  more  damage  than  Frozen  B.  can  someone  tell  me  what's  wrong  with  mine?


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May 7, 2021, 22:1405/07/21
May 7, 2021, 22:15(edited)
12/17/20
50

Isn't 170 enough accuracy for Hard and Brutal? 

The Boss here was Void Affinity, FYI.

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May 7, 2021, 22:1505/07/21
12/19/19
6491

books on FB? accuracy of each? you also have too many poisoners, so are likely blocking poison sensitivity from landing even if u do have accuracy.  post your roster for some comp advice

May 7, 2021, 22:1705/07/21
10/15/20
2041
raqi33

I  have  kind  of  the  same  compo  and  Aothar  does  way  more  damage  than  Frozen  B.  can  someone  tell  me  what's  wrong  with  mine?


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Probably to less accuracy. 

In addition to that, you can't see all damage she brings to your team. Her poison sensitivity will increase the damage from Aothar's posion. So she increases the team damage a lot, but the screenshot shows that as Aothar's damage.

May 7, 2021, 22:1805/07/21
12/17/20
50

She's fully booked.

Aothar is in Toxic, so I often reach the ten debuffs limit, but rarely more since my Kael is low accuracy and does most his damage without poison. I feel like the poison sensitivity lands everytime she does it.

May 7, 2021, 22:2005/07/21
12/19/19
6491

Also, lifesteal is really worthless unless 6star with WS/GS masteries on FB and most champs for that matter.

May 7, 2021, 22:3005/07/21
04/14/20
1343
raqi33

She's fully booked.

Aothar is in Toxic, so I often reach the ten debuffs limit, but rarely more since my Kael is low accuracy and does most his damage without poison. I feel like the poison sensitivity lands everytime she does it.

So you're deliberately cluttering up the debuff bar by using toxic gear? What a terrible idea... better to take that off Aothar and let them use the slots for the strong poisons. 170 accuracy seems sufficient - if you say she's landing poison sensitivity, then what happens when she uses her A1 on the next turn? Her poisons just don't land because there's no room, I suppose? 

In the somewhat longer term, you're going to want to remove Kael from your team, to be replaced by people putting the key debuffs decrease attack and decrease defense on the CB. 

May 7, 2021, 22:3305/07/21
12/17/20
50


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May 7, 2021, 22:3605/07/21
12/17/20
50
L9753

So you're deliberately cluttering up the debuff bar by using toxic gear? What a terrible idea... better to take that off Aothar and let them use the slots for the strong poisons. 170 accuracy seems sufficient - if you say she's landing poison sensitivity, then what happens when she uses her A1 on the next turn? Her poisons just don't land because there's no room, I suppose? 

In the somewhat longer term, you're going to want to remove Kael from your team, to be replaced by people putting the key debuffs decrease attack and decrease defense on the CB. 

I'll watch attentively my next fight but I don't feel like I'm cluttering the debuff bar. Maybe I'm wrong, I'll let you know. If you're right, I'll re-gear Aothar.

I already have a Decrease ATK with Rector Drath. Decrease DEF is what I'm missing.

I know I will remove Kael at some point, but he's just my main damage dealer now.

May 7, 2021, 22:3805/07/21
12/17/20
50
Trips

Also, lifesteal is really worthless unless 6star with WS/GS masteries on FB and most champs for that matter.

Indeed.

If I remove my Toxic set from Aothar, wouldn't it be good to put it on FB? 

May 8, 2021, 09:5105/08/21
04/14/20
1343
raqi33

Indeed.

If I remove my Toxic set from Aothar, wouldn't it be good to put it on FB? 

No. Toxic sets are bad in CB, unless you're running a very different type of team with no poisoners and just heavy hitters, who don't need that many debuff slots on the CB so there's space for the toxic set's small poisons. But on a team with Aothar and FB, no toxic sets. 

And to be clear, lifesteal does make sense on FB, so you shouldn't remove it really, it's just you need to get her Warmaster so it'll work. 

May 9, 2021, 18:2705/09/21
12/17/20
50
L9753

No. Toxic sets are bad in CB, unless you're running a very different type of team with no poisoners and just heavy hitters, who don't need that many debuff slots on the CB so there's space for the toxic set's small poisons. But on a team with Aothar and FB, no toxic sets. 

And to be clear, lifesteal does make sense on FB, so you shouldn't remove it really, it's just you need to get her Warmaster so it'll work. 

Alright, thank you!

I'll 6* FB soon anyway.

May 9, 2021, 18:5605/09/21
08/09/20
70

FB only places her poisons if she lands the poison sensitivity. It really is probable that you are cluttering the debuff bar and preventing her from landing the poison sensitivity, making her useless. This may also be preventing RD from placing her decrease attack debuff.

You only need one poisoner and I would go with FB.

May 11, 2021, 01:2105/11/21
12/17/20
50

So, I should replace Aothar by Cofin Smasher (for HP Burn and decrease ATK) or Anax (for a little bit of poison that won't clutter the bar and Decrease DEF)?

May 11, 2021, 08:3105/11/21
May 11, 2021, 08:31(edited)
10/15/20
2041
raqi33

So, I should replace Aothar by Cofin Smasher (for HP Burn and decrease ATK) or Anax (for a little bit of poison that won't clutter the bar and Decrease DEF)?

I would replace nobody from your team right now. You don't have that many debuffs at all that FB's poison sensitivity isn't placed if you - as allready recommended - don't use the bad toxic set anymore.

On the long run you should replace Kael, but not now, because he is one of the very few lvl 60 champs and you probably skilled Warmaster on him, so he does the most damage right now. Any champ with lvl 60 can do that. You have a fantastic CB champ unascended and unused in your roster, Jareg. You should replace Kael with him as he reaches lvl 60 in the future. He doesn't do much damage on his own, but he is keeping your team alive much longer. Of course Aothar and FB should reach lvl 60 as well.

Like I allready wrote before, the low damage of FB doesn't indicate that she is useless. Her poison sensitivity increases all poison damage. She increases Aothars damage with her skill, the screenshot shows the benefit she brings to your team as his damage. His poisons will do 25% less damage when you remove FB. And when you make her lvl 60 and skill Warmaster on her, FB's damage will increase a lot.

So your path should be: 1. FB lvl 60. 2. Aothar lvl 60. 3. Warmaster/Giantslayer on everybody in your team. 4. Jareg lvl 60, ascended, Warmaster skilled. 5. Jareg replacing Kael.