That's actually one point I forgot to get to. You have to farm or grind a lot just to get there. Well the only way to grind or farm a lot is by getting energy. They give you a bit of extra energy so maybe you can get around 300-400 a day maybe, but if you're impatient you're gonna have to cough up the dough to speed that up.

If nothing else it gives players that don't spend money a reason to consider spending money on stuff like energy to cut that wait time down and get that gratification of completing a goal even if it gives you basically nothing by doing so. 

First of all, it's not even hard, you'd want to gear your heroes with +16 artifacts with sets, for me it's a given.

Then about the reward, it's not the 80k silver, the reward is the epic book when you finish the line of challenges

It's not even that expensive to level up a 4* artifacts to level 12.

OzzLee said:

the reward is the epic book when you finish the line of challenges

This. Challenges gave books, and shards as you complete each page. It's not about the mini-rewards. 

I even wish the Challenges were still available to me for relatively ez shards lmao

One skill tome which you can use on one skill for one character. Characters have like 3 or 4 skills and again multiply by number of heroes you use. How much power does that even increase?

As I mentioned above not going to argue about the cost of leveling up items. It's partially random so you may get lucky and pay a heck of a lot less but on average its going to be more. Track your silver before spending to level up one item and after and let me know if that is actually less than the 80k you get from this challenge. 

Yes you want to level up items to level 16 but as soon as you level up an item that isn't as good as the next item for a hero you just wasted all that silver and energy. You create a system where if you don't get or pick the perfect heroes and items up front to level up then you're wasting your  resources. It's extremely annoying as a player that I sank so much energy into a character to find out that they're trash in the long run. 

Brizzle36 said:

One skill tome which you can use on one skill for one character. Characters have like 3 or 4 skills and again multiply by number of heroes you use. How much power does that even increase?

As I mentioned above not going to argue about the cost of leveling up items. It's partially random so you may get lucky and pay a heck of a lot less but on average its going to be more. Track your silver before spending to level up one item and after and let me know if that is actually less than the 80k you get from this challenge. 

Yes you want to level up items to level 16 but as soon as you level up an item that isn't as good as the next item for a hero you just wasted all that silver and energy. You create a system where if you don't get or pick the perfect heroes and items up front to level up then you're wasting your  resources. It's extremely annoying as a player that I sank so much energy into a character to find out that they're trash in the long run. 

So I'm confused here, how do you regularly gear up your champs? I mean if this challenge doesn't exist, how do you actually gear them up? Just give them gear and never level them up because of fear there's going to be a better gears?

Because the heroes I use frequently, all their gears are +12 at the minimum. If there's a better gear, then I change them, and level up those gears. As I said, going to lvl 12 on the gear is not even that expensive,you should get more than enough silver from grinding out the food for ranking up your heroes.

So for me this is not even a "challenge" it's something that comes naturally. I mean wait until you get to artifact challenge 10, your head is going to explode 😆😆😆

The only issue I see with this challenge is that it doesn't work with 4-piece sets. Level 16 relentless or lifesteal is not good enough. But the challenge will eventually be completed.

Truly annoying missions are arena ones in progression. 

OzzLee said:

Brizzle36 said:

One skill tome which you can use on one skill for one character. Characters have like 3 or 4 skills and again multiply by number of heroes you use. How much power does that even increase?

As I mentioned above not going to argue about the cost of leveling up items. It's partially random so you may get lucky and pay a heck of a lot less but on average its going to be more. Track your silver before spending to level up one item and after and let me know if that is actually less than the 80k you get from this challenge. 

Yes you want to level up items to level 16 but as soon as you level up an item that isn't as good as the next item for a hero you just wasted all that silver and energy. You create a system where if you don't get or pick the perfect heroes and items up front to level up then you're wasting your  resources. It's extremely annoying as a player that I sank so much energy into a character to find out that they're trash in the long run. 

So I'm confused here, how do you regularly gear up your champs? I mean if this challenge doesn't exist, how do you actually gear them up? Just give them gear and never level them up because of fear there's going to be a better gears?

Because the heroes I use frequently, all their gears are +12 at the minimum. If there's a better gear, then I change them, and level up those gears. As I said, going to lvl 12 on the gear is not even that expensive,you should get more than enough silver from grinding out the food for ranking up your heroes.

So for me this is not even a "challenge" it's something that comes naturally. I mean wait until you get to artifact challenge 10, your head is going to explode 😆😆😆

Brizzle36 said:

I level them up like any normal person. I've already leveled up a lot of sets beyond level 12 and I get no credit for any of them. But you're missing the forest for the tree. This is a problem with near every challenge they have, most of them aren't worth the investment. There are a lot more games out there that are a lot more generous with their rewards than this. It's baffling why they're so greedy with how deep this game can get. 

Well it's simple really if you think it doesn't worth it, then don't do it.

If you think there's other games that is more fun then play it.

Brizzle36 said:

I level them up like any normal person. I've already leveled up a lot of sets beyond level 12 and I get no credit for any of them. But you're missing the forest for the tree. This is a problem with near every challenge they have, most of them aren't worth the investment. There are a lot more games out there that are a lot more generous with their rewards than this. It's baffling why they're so greedy with how deep this game can get. 

Well it's simple really if you think it doesn't worth it, then don't do it.

If you think there's other games that is more fun then play it.

I'm always the kind of simple man that if I don't enjoy a game, I'll just play something else... As for this challenge, I just get it because I already fulfilled all the requirements before I get to this challenge

There are missions/quests that require leveling items and aren't retroactive.

Pala said:

The reward is for it, is a slap in the face of the free to play player. 

I just had to ask... Is it really that hard, that challenge is?

Because I'm an F2P and I never had any problems with challenge, it's usually just finish all by itself because everything in the challenge is something I would want to do anyway.