Anyone who have even 1 silver medal should not be able to enter Bronze

Anyone who have even 1 gold medal should not be able to enter Silver

Or if you want to be more lenient, anyone who has at least 1 silver upgrade in their Great Hall cannot enter Bronze, anyone who have at least 1 gold upgrade in their Great Hall cannot enter Silver.

This is the problem right now! High tier accounts going after low tier accounts

@OZZLEE

Your first suggestion is problematic - imagine case when anyone comes to silver I and manages to win one battle (as he/she can get opponents from bronze IV) and then gets locked as he/she cannot defeat almost anyone and cannot go to lower tier - thus no progress in missions, no chances in tournament, no upgrades in guildhall.

Your second suggestion has a flaw that people can wait for upgrade for very long time and grind a lot of silver medals before spending them in guildhall.

Kjeldor

@WILEYMAN

To enlarge platinum tier is not enough. If I understand arena correctly, every week the game "loses" a lot of arena points as you get reset to start of the tier. If you have 2595 points, for example, at the arena end you lose 295 points. And I do not speak about platinum tier. When many people lose a lot of points on higher tiers, where the game compensates it? Only in bronze I (I believe) as even at 0 points you get to 900 again at reset. So if you have a lot of people in sliver/gold and less in bronze, more and more people will fall down, stop playing and this spiral of death will destroy arena completely...

kjeldor79 said:

@OZZLEE

Your first suggestion is problematic - imagine case when anyone comes to silver I and manages to win one battle (as he/she can get opponents from bronze IV) and then gets locked as he/she cannot defeat almost anyone and cannot go to lower tier - thus no progress in missions, no chances in tournament, no upgrades in guildhall.

Your second suggestion has a flaw that people can wait for upgrade for very long time and grind a lot of silver medals before spending them in guildhall.

Kjeldor

Not really, after a while, the barrier (where people cannot go back down) will become a dam, and it will create a pool of like powered people. It will resolve by itself.

Second, if an account can win a silver medal, then he already have found accounts that he can fight against in silver, meaning there's accounts there he can fight against, same goes with gold.

And for the Great Hall barrier idea, it's if you want to be lenient, I prefer the first idea myself. The second idea is based on the bonus the great hall give, anyone who own a silver upgrade in Great Hall have an unfair advantage against anyone who can't breach through silver tier yet. That they should not and cannot fight anyone bellow their tier. If they decide to hoard say silver medal and not spend them, then they're fighting in silver tier with a handicap, meaning they add another layer of difficulty for their account. That's their own volition to handicap themselves, but by not allowing an account that have silver tier upgrade to go down is to protect the accounts in bronze, specially those who have no chance at all to get even a silver medal. Same goes to the gold medal tier.

I think a much simpler rework to Arena would be to expand Platinum to have 4 levels like all of the other tiers, which gives the more advanced players somewhere to go and reduces the competitiveness of all of the lower tiers, allowing lower level players to advance more appropriately and making the Arbiter Mission more realistic again.  

This is an awesome idea - I was imagining rework based on grouping via initial game start date (age in game), but any date method punishes slower progressing players. Kjeldor’s idea is equitable and would instantly fix frustrating ass beating keeping me locked out of silver.

Trips said:

BosmoMax said:

This is an awesome idea - I was imagining rework based on grouping via initial game start date (age in game), but any date method punishes slower progressing players. Kjeldor’s idea is equitable and would instantly fix frustrating ass beating keeping me locked out of silver.

I think limiting your opponents (matchmaking changes) on your idea of tenure (start date) is great.  In bronze you don''t get matched against anyone who started more than 3 months before you, in silver 6 months, maybe gold 1 and 2 9 months, then no limit after that.

The problem with using tenure is alt accts.  Someone in the game for a year can create a new acct.  They have the skill and knowledge to build a great team out of nothing. 

They should remove arena from any type of reward system.  Take it out of the Arbiter chase.  Find another battle type to earn Great Hall medals.  Campaign farming is the fairest competition in the game.  Give Arbiter and Great Hall medals based on a total score from campaign farming.  Everyone is on the same balanced playing field. 

There is a skill, strategy and money problem in arena.  For too many they cannot be competitive.  We all see the screen shots of god level Legendaries in Bronze.  Too many are growing tired of arena.  They either leave the game or give up on any chance of arena rewards.  

Has anyone wondered why arena is tied to so many other rewards?  Daily mission, clan, Great Hall, Arbiter.  Why does Plarium FORCE us to play arena?  Is arena actually broken or is it exactly the way Plarium wants it for their business model?  The frustration level in arena will make people buy items to advance there.