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Jul 18, 2020, 23:4207/18/20
06/18/20
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Tag Team Arena - lose by winning

The instructions for tag-team arena say that if you win 2 of the 3 battles, you will move forward.


This is NOT correct.


There are multiple times when I have won 2 of the 3 battles and was rewarded with NEGATIVE points, moving backwards.


It doesn't help that before the battles begin you can only see the amount you will win if you win the battle, but NOT the amount you will lose if you lose the battle (and the LOSING amount which is not shown is often larger than the WINNING amount which is shown).


Here's an image of my latest "win" that had me actually move down by 2 points.




Each win was 6 points.  If each loss was also 6 points, then I would have come out 6 points ahead.


But - since the first loss was a FOURTEEN POINT PENALTY, it was larger than the two 6 point wins.


How are you supposed to know that before starting the battle?


This breaks the directions of "win 2 battles and you win the match and make progress".
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Jul 18, 2020, 23:5307/18/20
12/19/19
6265

you should know by now. it is same as classic, and has been this way for 3 weeks.  


20-x


It is actually designed to stop people from attacking much weaker opponents


Jul 19, 2020, 01:0407/19/20
05/16/19
726
This issue was addressed back in the test servers, but got reverted back to this after implementation on main servers for some reason. I bet this will be fixed in the next patch or so. 
Jul 19, 2020, 01:1207/19/20
07/05/19
747
On the other hand, someone else have exploited the reverse, winning by losing.
Jul 19, 2020, 07:5607/19/20
05/26/20
26

Hello,

I would like to know in which world live the dev who laid that to win, arena 3V3, 2 rounds on 3, is in fact a defeat to the point obtained, I don't know what they smoke, but pass.


Transpose to the IRL, I would like to see your / your DEV go to announce to Mike Tyson that in fact it is victory to the point, well in fact he lost. I am sure that he would take this decision with humor !!!

Jul 19, 2020, 11:3207/19/20
06/30/20
206
easy fix, all "Victory" will gain 0+ points, no minus points for winner. 
Jul 20, 2020, 03:3107/20/20
07/17/19
76
Find like +13 teams that you think you can win 2 battles on is the best answer
Jul 20, 2020, 03:4507/20/20
07/05/19
747
Spyder73 said:

Find like +13 teams that you think you can win 2 battles on is the best answer
Or find a +14 teams you can win 1 battles on
Jul 20, 2020, 04:0507/20/20
01/22/20
1
Thanks for instruction)
Jul 20, 2020, 05:0307/20/20
03/18/20
305

or a 17 and win one batte and still come out in front with 9 or 10 points from memory and repeatibly hit the same person as you lost but are winning in the point collecting exercise


plarium has gone backwards ever since the end of battle pass so many moves leaving you scratching your head as to why do that - classic arena for example in its current format will start to drop off new players because its frustrating

GreenKnightCommunity Manager
Jul 21, 2020, 14:5207/21/20
04/06/20
581

Hi!

Anonymous User277 said:


The instructions for tag-team arena say that if you win 2 of the 3 battles, you will move forward.


This is NOT correct.


There are multiple times when I have won 2 of the 3 battles and was rewarded with NEGATIVE points, moving backwards.

This system is based on the Classic Arena algorithm, in which fighting much weaker opponents is less rewarding and has a higher cost of defeat.
A series of battles has three fights, with the same number of points as a bet in each of them. Some examples of how it works:

Any battle with a bet of 10 points will grant the victor 10 points and subtract them from the opponent.

Any battle with a bet of 6 points will grant the attacker if he wins 6 points but will subtract 14 if he loses.

We are working on improvements in our Tag Team Arena matchmaking algorithm. Some changes are already online, and your opponents' pool will be closer to your placement in the rating. 

Have a nice day and stay safe.

Jul 21, 2020, 19:2407/21/20
Jul 21, 2020, 19:26(edited)
07/21/20
3

Thanks for the 20-x tip. When I fought a 14 team and won 1, I finished +2 overall. Nice. Although, winning so few points won’t do much at all...other than you can say you’re not back sliding  



My gripe is with the pairing mechanism. Last week I was able to fight and win and achieve green in B1. Got promoted to B2. This week is ridiculous. My team is 180K and I’m being paired with teams 300k on average (some lower, some higher). None of whom I can beat. Okay, I understand that it will take time for the 300k teams to move up. But what’s ridiculous is that after 1 day, my score is down to 583 from 1000, from losing in defense. And it’s still pairing me with 900-1000 point teams instead of 500-600 point teams or even anything in between.  


Pairing should be more fair and pit players with those that have approximately the same scores... 

Jul 21, 2020, 20:0407/21/20
04/21/20
32
Thanks for answering my question. "win" 2 of 3 and lose points. Why bother with tag team at all.
Jul 21, 2020, 20:1007/21/20
03/18/20
305

Will said:


Thanks for answering my question. "win" 2 of 3 and lose points. Why bother with tag team at all.


spot on more about trying to farm the most points and if you can find one where you win 10 points just farm all 10 tokens on him thanks 100 points then do it again and again without refreshing the list


plarium know theres a issue there but have rolled back fixing it by at least a month apparently so why not make the most of it I say