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Mar 23, 2020, 14:3103/23/20
05/23/19
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Which one first to 60?

I want a solid Clan boss and Dungeon Team. 

Shall i just go with Coldheart or maby a healer för sustain?

I will get more to 60 ofcourse but who shall i pick first? I cant get pass 2mil i CB and i cant freaking finish lvl 10 dungeons





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Mar 23, 2020, 14:4103/23/20
02/20/20
236

The key is:  are you more likely to get a better hero or get resources to 60 a champion?  I would say the former, except for the 2 heroes below:


1. Coldheart -- very jealous and hard to get

2. Skullcrusher -- your chance of getting another counter attack champion is low

3. [Optional] Bloodgorged or Sinesha - just generally good and worth 60


Anything else doesn't deserve it and you won't use in mid-late game. There are better healers you can get or lifesteal gear.





Mar 23, 2020, 15:0903/23/20
12/08/19
94

First u need a solid campaign farmer...this should always be ur first lvl 60 champ---no doubts about it, this is a must!


Next should be your clanboss team: You have some good champs for it, but first look on a good farmer.


In your case i would lvl up bloodgored first...he can farm, he is good in arena, he is not bad in some dungeons like dragon, ice golem...


after that look for a good clanboss team
Mar 23, 2020, 15:4803/23/20
12/19/19
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I agree with the advice that your first 60 should must be a farmer (able to solo 12.3 / 12.6 brutal). I will add that if you have multiple choices for this you should choose the one that will provide you the most value elsewhere (dungeons, CB, Arena) long-term.  It takes a ton of resources (energy, potions, books, scrolls) to max out a hero.  If your farmer ends up being just a farmer, you've "wasted" a 60.  I find myself in that situation now. I chose Elhain as my starter. She was great in the beginning and middle. Now she is only my farmer.  I really had no choice, and luckily I haven't invested in scrolls and only rare books. But that is one of the many mistakes I made early.  
Mar 23, 2020, 15:5103/23/20
07/17/19
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Relic Keeper was my first 60 and I have no regrets, he helped me progress so much in farming. Dungeons, and arena.


Hes not "end game" but he can sure help you push better than a lot of champs
Mar 24, 2020, 08:1003/24/20
05/23/19
2

Damn, so many advices :D

My relickeeper is 20k power and can farm 10-3 on brutal but not 12-3 cuz he's affinity is red, but other then that he just lays around doing nothing. So i can be happy with the silver/xp from 10-3.

So i kinda feel that i have a solid farmer.


I dont pay alot in the game so gems are hard to come by, i soon have 800 for one masteries and i want to add the masteries to the one ill get to 60.


My Arena-team sucks so i cant even get to silver to finish the quest, so if i add all to Coldheart ill still stay in bronze since she is not on my arena team.


Man, so many hard choices and good advice for you ppl, thanks.

Mar 24, 2020, 09:2903/24/20
11/23/19
3

My CB Team:

1- Roshcard the Tower, lv6, 29k pwr

2- Coldheart, lv 6, 37K pwr

3- Coldheart, lv 6, 35K pwr

4- Royal Guard, lv 6, 33K pwr

5- Apothecary, lv 6, 25K pwr


All fully ascended and yet only 4 million on Brutal CB.

Ive been trying to find ways to keep them alive but to no avail.

Roshcards A3 has helped. Couple more hits because of it.

Do i need more Defense or try and find more crit rate and crit dmg?

Both Coldhearts are 70 crit rate and 240 crit dmg. I think they are good enough. ACC is at 150 for both as well.

Needing advice here.

Thanks 

Mar 24, 2020, 10:3003/24/20
02/20/20
236

ajappleby said:


My CB Team:

1- Roshcard the Tower, lv6, 29k pwr

2- Coldheart, lv 6, 37K pwr

3- Coldheart, lv 6, 35K pwr

4- Royal Guard, lv 6, 33K pwr

5- Apothecary, lv 6, 25K pwr


All fully ascended and yet only 4 million on Brutal CB.

The team you have there is a Dungeon team, not a CB team. In Dungeons, you want to burst damage and control Turn Meter (TM), neither is needed or works in CB. Except Apothecary, none of them are used in any CB set up I have seen.


The CB rapidly increases its damage, so actually healing is not the biggest issue. What you will see is that you overheal at start, and then your healer can't keep at end.

The issue is Defence and Protection and Debuff on Boss to Reduce Attack. So you must have the best defence buffs on at all times, and debuff boss with reduced attack.

Suggest Team:


1. [Increase Defence 60%]  --- must be on 3 Turn CD to all allies, so you can speed boost to 2 Turn

2. [Ally Protect] / [Shield] / [Strengthen] / [Remove, Immune to Debuff] --- preferably at least 2 out of these

3. [Counter Attack] or [Speed] --- damage boost across party

4. [Decrease Enemy Attack] --- must land 75% of time preferable on A1 with no CD

5. [Poison DPS] --- because multiple stacks of poison (ideally 3-5 constant) does insane % Max HP DPS


Note A: You need ACC 160 [Easy] to 220 [Nightmare] to land reliably all of the debuffs

Note B: life steal and leech debuff are sufficient for healing

Note C: gimmicks like Immune to Damage, Revive on Death ....etc., is only useful if you can do 1-4 to protect them after they revive

Note D: other bonus like [Dec Defence] [Weaken] will boost damage but not worth sacrificing for 1-5 above.


Mar 24, 2020, 10:5103/24/20
05/23/19
2

i've made up my mind, Skullcrusher will carry my team.

He can get me to higher Arena, he can carry my team in dungeon, he can carry my team in clan boss.

Ima add lifesteal gear on him and masteries to 30% counter attack when hit.

At the moment he's the first one to die since he soak so much dmg in dungeons/arena/dungeon.
Mar 24, 2020, 14:5703/24/20
11/23/19
3
Thanks for that insight. I got some work to do. 
Mar 24, 2020, 15:1303/24/20
12/19/19
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christopherhoglin said:

i've made up my mind, Skullcrusher will carry my team.

He can get me to higher Arena, he can carry my team in dungeon, he can carry my team in clan boss.

Ima add lifesteal gear on him and masteries to 30% counter attack when hit.

At the moment he's the first one to die since he soak so much dmg in dungeons/arena/dungeon.
skullcrusheris awesome. I'm not sure if lifesteal is right gear at 1st. Until you can get lifesteal on entire CB team w/ masteries. I'm interested in other opinions on this. I use SC on CB and in Arena. 
Mar 24, 2020, 17:0503/24/20
02/20/20
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christopherhoglin said:

i've made up my mind, Skullcrusher will carry my team.

He can get me to higher Arena, he can carry my team in dungeon, he can carry my team in clan boss.

Ima add lifesteal gear on him and masteries to 30% counter attack when hit.

At the moment he's the first one to die since he soak so much dmg in dungeons/arena/dungeon.
Exactly. Counter Attack changes the game in every place like nothing else. there are only 3 CA champions, and 2 legendaries are very hard to get.  
Mar 24, 2020, 19:3803/24/20
Mar 24, 2020, 19:45(edited)
11/01/19
1

Christo, im my opiniom and low experience im fuse relickkeeper make him 60, put 100% crit, full attack and he doing for me 12-6 stage.


I have simillar question - about 3rd champion.

My 1st relickkeeper

2nd dracomorph

3rd ...

Couple options:

Apothecary

Tayrel

Royalguard

Coldheart


I will 60 them all, but my target 3x60 and full masteries. Thanks for help.

Mar 24, 2020, 19:4903/24/20
10/22/19
28
Wiara said:

Christo, im my opiniom and low experience im fuse relickkeeper make him 60, put 100% crit, full attack and he doing for me 12-6 stage.


I have simillar question - about 3rd champion.

My 1st relickkeeper

2nd dracomorph

3rd ...

Couple options:

Apothecary

Tayrel

Royalguard

Coldheart


I will 60 them all, but my target 3x60 and full masteries. Thanks for help.

Apothecary, then Royal Guard or Coldheart. I've had more success with Royal Guard than Coldheart, but maybe that's just me. Apothecary should be the 2nd or 3rd 60 when possible; he is amazing for every aspect of the game.
Mar 24, 2020, 20:3303/24/20
01/17/20
1
Hi, Im new to the game and want to 60 my 1st hero...it will be StagKnight, Thenasil or Wurlim. Blut which one?? Know that there are Mandy dependencies Butt you have to start somewhere. Please advice...thx!
Mar 25, 2020, 21:4103/25/20
05/13/19
2326

You should 60 - Relic Keeper or Athel 

They bought can Farm Brutal Chapter 12

Relic Keeper is often used to farm 12-6

Athel is often used to farm 12-3 or 12-6