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Attack Down plus Defense Down is a Joke

Feb 15, 2020, 10:1102/15/20

07/21/19

Attack Down plus Defense Down is a Joke

Hi all, I'm having some doubt how this going to work. Having several fight in arena.

Peydma Attk Down all enemies, then Tayrel Def Down all enemies. So literally I should put all enemies to sleep but nope. Some times one or two, some times none. Hardly put all to sleep. What do I miss here? Isn't Attk Down + Def Down = Sleep debuff a 100% deal?

If say I need Acc, I had already debuff all the enemies. what else Acc I need?

And if it really did need Acc, how are you going to count it? My Tayrel has 300++ Acc with 100% chance Def Down and Peydme has 200++ Acc, 99% CR and 100% chance Attk Down. All together 500++ which I think more then enough. Enemies team isn't any high Resist team else I won't be able to debuff them easily.

Anyone out there please advise.

Thanks.

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Player J

Feb 15, 2020, 13:4202/15/20

Feb 15, 2020, 14:06(edited)

05/13/19

2326

Lets break this down from the start:

It will help me figure out if your doing something wrong or if it is a bug.

Your Peydma is going first.

Peydma can put Atk Down on all enemies if critical.

Ideally, you want your Peydma to have:

A1 fully booked
100% Critical Rate
High Accuracy so she can land the Atk Down.

First Question:

Do you see all the enemies with the Atk Down Debuff?

If the answer is No, This is what is messing up your strategy.

To fix this you would have to check the bullet points I mention previously.

If the answer is Yes, we go to next scenario.

Tayrel goes second.

Tayrel can put Def Down + Sleep on all enemies if the target is under Atk Down Debuff.

Ideally, you want your Tayrel to have:

A2 fully booked
High Accuracy so he can land the Def Down + Sleep

Second Question:

Do you see all the enemies with the Def Down Debuff?

Third Question:

Do you see all the enemies with the Sleep Debuff?

cozzhoh

Feb 15, 2020, 14:3802/15/20

Feb 15, 2020, 18:40(edited)

07/21/19

Player J said:

Lets break this down from the start:
It will help me figure out if your doing something wrong or if it is a bug.

Your Peydma is going first.
Peydma can put Atk Down on all enemies if critical.

Ideally, you want your Peydma to have:
A1 fully booked Yes, 100% chance
100% Critical Rate 99% CR
High Accuracy so she can land the Atk Down. 200++ Acc

First Question:
Do you see all the enemies with the Atk Down Debuff? Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken sword on their head.

If the answer is No, This is what is messing up your strategy.
To fix this you would have to check the bullet points I mention previously.

If the answer is Yes, we go to next scenario.
Tayrel goes second.
Tayrel can put Def Down + Sleep on all enemies if the target is under Atk Down Debuff.

Ideally, you want your Tayrel to have:
A2 fully booked Yes, 100% chance
High Accuracy so he can land the Def Down + Sleep 300++ Acc

Second Question:
Do you see all the enemies with the Def Down Debuff? Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken shield on their head.

Third Question:
Do you see all the enemies with the Sleep Debuff? 1 or 2 usually, 3 once in a while, 4 is like a jackpot to me.

cozzhoh

Feb 15, 2020, 14:4402/15/20

Feb 15, 2020, 18:39(edited)

07/21/19

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<span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken sword on their head.</span></p><br><br><p>If the answer is No, This is what is messing up your strategy.</p><p>To fix this you would have to check the bullet points I mention previously.</p><br><br><p>If the answer is Yes, we go to next scenario.</p><p>Tayrel goes second.</p><p>Tayrel can put Def Down + Sleep on all enemies if the target is under Atk Down Debuff.</p><br><p>Ideally, you want your Tayrel to have:</p><ul><li>A2 fully booked <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, 100% chance</span></li><li>High Accuracy so he can land the Def Down + Sleep <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">300++ Acc</span></li></ul><br><br><p><u><strong>Second Question:</strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Def Down Debuff? <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken </span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: 700;\">shield</span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\"> on their head.</span></p><br><p><u><strong>Third Question: </strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Sleep Debuff? <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">1 or 2 usually, 3 once in a while,</span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\"> 4 is like a jackpot to me.</span></p><br></blockquote><br>","userRegistered":"1563727308173","userCommentsCount":"2","userName":"cozzhoh","createdDate":"1581777481253","editedDate":"1581792039667","id":"750156","entityId":"188321","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/raid-shadow-legends/avatars/2120.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"750156","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/8541721/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_750158/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"8541721","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Suzerain Katonn missed </span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=75f63b97-aefa-41f8-961a-18fcae2094ff\"></p><br><p><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Altan missed</span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=2f063dea-955f-4858-be78-f2b13a9bbf16\"></p><br><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Prince Kymar missed<br></span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=5c70b556-12a1-4461-ae56-e4e64d1f946e\"><br><br>","userRegistered":"1563727308173","userCommentsCount":"2","userName":"cozzhoh","createdDate":"1581777893420","editedDate":"1581791974273","id":"750158","entityId":"188321","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/raid-shadow-legends/avatars/2120.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"750158","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}}]},"components":{}}},{"name":"wEditor","type":"wEditor","model":{"links":{},"strings":{"title":"Add title","shortText":"Add summary","buttonSave":"Post","buttonCancel":"Cancel","buttonComment":"Comment","timerTitle":"Set Post Date and Time","timerPlaceholder":"Schedule Post","buttonPreview":"Preview","timeUTC":"This post will go live using UTC [+0.00]","maxLength":"50000","errorTitleMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorTitleSearchMinLength":"Min: 3 characters","errorTitleMaxLength":"Max: 100 characters","errorShortTextMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorShortTextMaxLength":"Max: 350 characters","errorAltUploadMinImageLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorAltUploadMaxImageLength":"Max: 150 characters","errorSignatureMaxLength":"Max: 360 characters","errorCountryMaxLength":"Max: 256 characters","errorClanMaxLength":"Max: 20 characters","errorPreviewRequired":"Image required","errorMaxLength":"Max length: 50 000 characters. 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Enemies team isn't any high Resist team else I won't be able to debuff them easily.</p><br><p>Anyone out there please advise. </p><p>Thanks.</p>","createdDate":"1581761460000","folderId":"674","id":"188321","authorId":"8541721","authorRegistered":"1563727308173","authorName":"cozzhoh","authorBanId":""},"images":{"authorAvatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/raid-shadow-legends/avatars/2120.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","subscribeId":"","isSubscribed":"false","viewsCount":"821","commentsCount":"3","likesCount":"0","authorCommentsCount":"2","isHidden":"false","isClosed":"false","pinnedStatus":"false"},"repeaters":{"achievements":[]},"components":{}}},{"name":"wComments","type":"wComments","model":{"links":{"baseUrl":"/en/raid-shadow-legends/674_game-discussion/188321_attack-down-plus--defense-down-is-a-joke/"},"strings":{"userIdText":"Forum ID:","userRegisteredText":"Joined:","userCommentsCountText":"Comments:","buttonReply":"Reply","buttonQuote":"Quote","buttonExpandOriginal":"Show quote thread","buttonCollapseOriginal":"Hide quote thread","title":"Comments","edited":"(edited)"},"images":{},"template_options":{"compositeId":"50-1","currentPage":"1","lastPage":"1"},"repeaters":{"commentList":[{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/8374199/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_750132/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"8374199","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p>Lets break this down from the start:</p><p>It will help me figure out if your doing something wrong or if it is a bug.</p><br><p>Your Peydma is going first.</p><p>Peydma can put Atk Down on all enemies if critical. </p><br><p>Ideally, you want your Peydma to have: </p><ul><li>A1 fully booked</li><li>100% Critical Rate</li><li>High Accuracy so she can land the Atk Down.<br></li></ul><br><p><u><strong>First Question:</strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Atk Down Debuff?</p><br><br><p>If the answer is No, This is what is messing up your strategy.</p><p>To fix this you would have to check the bullet points I mention previously.</p><br><br><p>If the answer is Yes, we go to next scenario.</p><p>Tayrel goes second.</p><p>Tayrel can put Def Down + Sleep on all enemies if the target is under Atk Down Debuff.</p><br><p>Ideally, you want your Tayrel to have:</p><ul><li>A2 fully booked</li><li>High Accuracy so he can land the Def Down + Sleep</li></ul><br><br><p><u><strong>Second Question:</strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Def Down Debuff?</p><br><p><u><strong>Third Question: </strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Sleep Debuff?</p><br>","userRegistered":"1557750529823","userCommentsCount":"2326","userName":"Player J","createdDate":"1581774151263","editedDate":"1581775596557","id":"750132","entityId":"188321","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":"13583"},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd-avatar.x-plarium.com/prod/51912232.jpeg.jpeg?v=1593840352"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"750132","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/8541721/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_750156/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"8541721","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<div class=\"user-name\">Player J said:</div><br><blockquote><p>Lets break this down from the start:</p><p>It will help me figure out if your doing something wrong or if it is a bug.</p><br><p>Your Peydma is going first.</p><p>Peydma can put Atk Down on all enemies if critical. </p><br><p>Ideally, you want your Peydma to have: </p><ul><li>A1 fully booked <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, 100% chance</span></li><li>100% Critical Rate <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">99% CR</span></li><li>High Accuracy so she can land the Atk Down. <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">200++ Acc</span><br></li></ul><br><p><u><strong>First Question:</strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Atk Down Debuff? <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken sword on their head.</span></p><br><br><p>If the answer is No, This is what is messing up your strategy.</p><p>To fix this you would have to check the bullet points I mention previously.</p><br><br><p>If the answer is Yes, we go to next scenario.</p><p>Tayrel goes second.</p><p>Tayrel can put Def Down + Sleep on all enemies if the target is under Atk Down Debuff.</p><br><p>Ideally, you want your Tayrel to have:</p><ul><li>A2 fully booked <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, 100% chance</span></li><li>High Accuracy so he can land the Def Down + Sleep <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">300++ Acc</span></li></ul><br><br><p><u><strong>Second Question:</strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Def Down Debuff? <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">Yes, All 4 enemies have a broken </span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: 700;\">shield</span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\"> on their head.</span></p><br><p><u><strong>Third Question: </strong></u></p><p>Do you see all the enemies with the Sleep Debuff? <span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\">1 or 2 usually, 3 once in a while,</span><span style=\"color: rgb(247, 150, 70); font-weight: bold;\"> 4 is like a jackpot to me.</span></p><br></blockquote><br>","userRegistered":"1563727308173","userCommentsCount":"2","userName":"cozzhoh","createdDate":"1581777481253","editedDate":"1581792039667","id":"750156","entityId":"188321","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/raid-shadow-legends/avatars/2120.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"750156","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}},{"links":{"authorUrl":"/en/profile/8541721/","commentUrl":"/en/comment/topic_750158/"},"strings":{"userRole":"","userId":"8541721","contentDraftJs":"","contentHtml":"<p><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Suzerain Katonn missed </span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=75f63b97-aefa-41f8-961a-18fcae2094ff\"></p><br><p><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Altan missed</span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=2f063dea-955f-4858-be78-f2b13a9bbf16\"></p><br><span style=\"color: rgb(255, 255, 255);\">Prince Kymar missed<br></span><img src=\"//cnt-forum.plarium.com/file.bmp?g=5c70b556-12a1-4461-ae56-e4e64d1f946e\"><br><br>","userRegistered":"1563727308173","userCommentsCount":"2","userName":"cozzhoh","createdDate":"1581777893420","editedDate":"1581791974273","id":"750158","entityId":"188321","likesCount":"0","quotedId":"","userBanId":""},"images":{"avatar":{"href":"https://cdn-gpd.x-plarium.com/browser/content/forum/raid-shadow-legends/avatars/2120.jpg"}},"template_options":{"isLiked":"false","wasEdited":"true","canEdit":"false","compositeId":"750158","isDeleted":"false"},"repeaters":{}}]},"components":{}}},{"name":"wEditor","type":"wEditor","model":{"links":{},"strings":{"title":"Add title","shortText":"Add summary","buttonSave":"Post","buttonCancel":"Cancel","buttonComment":"Comment","timerTitle":"Set Post Date and Time","timerPlaceholder":"Schedule Post","buttonPreview":"Preview","timeUTC":"This post will go live using UTC [+0.00]","maxLength":"50000","errorTitleMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorTitleSearchMinLength":"Min: 3 characters","errorTitleMaxLength":"Max: 100 characters","errorShortTextMinLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorShortTextMaxLength":"Max: 350 characters","errorAltUploadMinImageLength":"Min: 2 characters","errorAltUploadMaxImageLength":"Max: 150 characters","errorSignatureMaxLength":"Max: 360 characters","errorCountryMaxLength":"Max: 256 characters","errorClanMaxLength":"Max: 20 characters","errorPreviewRequired":"Image required","errorMaxLength":"Max length: 50 000 characters. 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