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ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 18, 2025, 22:1303/18/25
06/24/19
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WileyMan

Accoring to HH website, Kawn's shield multiplier is 3.5*Def, so let's say you give him build of 6K Def & 50K HP.

His A3 will put up a shield worth 21K, which is 42% of 50K, so his A2 would ignore 21% of Enemy Defense on top of the Savage/Lethal/Merciless Gear and Helmsmasher that you would want on him too.

HH does rate his A2 as "Godlike" for Arena, but that is predicated on the correct setup, which for Kawn means a shield is up before he hits.

Problem is are you getting 2 turns like that in arena, and if you are why bother with the extra step when so many other options are just better.  Of course you could run him with Bolster Nehkret or something to that effect but Narses exists.

Mar 18, 2025, 22:3603/18/25
07/01/22
699
MooredRat

I mean, there are other champs who have attacks which ignore defense without convoluted poorly-worded set-ups required.

I mean the game is so RNG focused sometimes, I'm waiting for the champion that changes Type based on what day of the week it is

Mar 19, 2025, 04:0203/19/25
01/31/20
1278
ShortOnSkillz

Problem is are you getting 2 turns like that in arena, and if you are why bother with the extra step when so many other options are just better.  Of course you could run him with Bolster Nehkret or something to that effect but Narses exists.

I agree totally. Relying on shields for sustainability is even less viable these days than my Old School High Res Tanks.  Narses made Mithrala & Valkyrie mostly irrelevant for Arena Defense.

He seems like he is designed as a PVP Nuker, but feels lackluster for that role comapred to the field of Void Lego Nukers....although the Block Revive on the A1 is solid.

Mar 19, 2025, 04:3103/19/25
12/16/21
1596
WileyMan

I agree totally. Relying on shields for sustainability is even less viable these days than my Old School High Res Tanks.  Narses made Mithrala & Valkyrie mostly irrelevant for Arena Defense.

He seems like he is designed as a PVP Nuker, but feels lackluster for that role comapred to the field of Void Lego Nukers....although the Block Revive on the A1 is solid.

Embrys, the Chimera mythic, has block revive on his form 2 a1, and people are gonna start getting him soon

Mar 19, 2025, 05:1103/19/25
06/25/20
6920
WileyMan

I agree totally. Relying on shields for sustainability is even less viable these days than my Old School High Res Tanks.  Narses made Mithrala & Valkyrie mostly irrelevant for Arena Defense.

He seems like he is designed as a PVP Nuker, but feels lackluster for that role comapred to the field of Void Lego Nukers....although the Block Revive on the A1 is solid.

I don't think he should be discounted. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Rotos too. The A1 has block revive and the A2 destroys max HP, and rather than growing his HP, he grows his DEF.

Now, of course, you're right, he's a void lego, so that means he has to measure up against some pretty big champs. Still - I think if I were to get him, I'd probably see if I could find a way to get him on a team.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 09:0403/19/25
06/24/19
2897
kramaswamy.kr

I don't think he should be discounted. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Rotos too. The A1 has block revive and the A2 destroys max HP, and rather than growing his HP, he grows his DEF.

Now, of course, you're right, he's a void lego, so that means he has to measure up against some pretty big champs. Still - I think if I were to get him, I'd probably see if I could find a way to get him on a team.

It's entirely possible he's better than we think, but if we come back to the core of the question...Do we think he's worth dumping all the resources in this Deck to get?  For me it's an easy no.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 09:0503/19/25
06/24/19
2897
MooredRat

Embrys, the Chimera mythic, has block revive on his form 2 a1, and people are gonna start getting him soon

Yup, where are you guys at with his frags?  I'm at 83 so it'll be 3 more  for me.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 09:0703/19/25
06/24/19
2897
WileyMan

I agree totally. Relying on shields for sustainability is even less viable these days than my Old School High Res Tanks.  Narses made Mithrala & Valkyrie mostly irrelevant for Arena Defense.

He seems like he is designed as a PVP Nuker, but feels lackluster for that role comapred to the field of Void Lego Nukers....although the Block Revive on the A1 is solid.

Mhmm, If I pulled him from a shard I'm extremely disappointed and equally no chance I'm spending 25 Sacreds or 150 voids or 11 Eternal stones for him.

Mar 19, 2025, 16:3603/19/25
01/31/20
1278
kramaswamy.kr

I don't think he should be discounted. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Rotos too. The A1 has block revive and the A2 destroys max HP, and rather than growing his HP, he grows his DEF.

Now, of course, you're right, he's a void lego, so that means he has to measure up against some pretty big champs. Still - I think if I were to get him, I'd probably see if I could find a way to get him on a team.

If I pulled him from a shard, I am sure I would build him. I was trying hard to convince myself to do the DoF, but I just can't justify the resource expenditure knowing that there will almost certainly be a must-do event for a Fabian 5* awakening popping up soon.  

I really wanted to pull soulstones to try to get a big Marius awakening, and if there had been a 2X on them, I am sure I would have done this DoF w/o a second thought.

Mar 19, 2025, 16:3803/19/25
Mar 19, 2025, 16:40(edited)
01/31/20
1278
ShortOnSkillz

Yup, where are you guys at with his frags?  I'm at 83 so it'll be 3 more  for me.

73 for me. I am up to 4.33B across my two keys this week. This is my first time over 4B.

Mar 19, 2025, 17:3903/19/25
12/16/21
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ShortOnSkillz

Yup, where are you guys at with his frags?  I'm at 83 so it'll be 3 more  for me.

I'm only at 47. My clan doesn't bring down NM yet, so I've been doing one top chest on nm, and double top chests on brutal.

Mar 19, 2025, 17:4203/19/25
12/18/19
389

But its shield on the enemy that is counted right? At the moment from comments i understand its leaning towards the shield on Kawn itself


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Mar 19, 2025, 18:5503/19/25
12/16/21
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sharkium

But its shield on the enemy that is counted right? At the moment from comments i understand its leaning towards the shield on Kawn itself


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No, it's Kawn's own shield

Mar 19, 2025, 19:1203/19/25
12/18/19
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MooredRat

No, it's Kawn's own shield

Its some god damn lawyer language in that skill xD

Mar 19, 2025, 19:1603/19/25
06/25/20
6920

Plarium are pretty consistent in this respect. They basically always use gender-agnostic terms.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 19:1803/19/25
06/24/19
2897
MooredRat

I'm only at 47. My clan doesn't bring down NM yet, so I've been doing one top chest on nm, and double top chests on brutal.

Slow and steady.  It's nice that everyone will get him eventually, regardless of how high you're pushing chimera.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 19:1903/19/25
06/24/19
2897
WileyMan

73 for me. I am up to 4.33B across my two keys this week. This is my first time over 4B.

Very nice.  Last 2 rotations I've been over 8B.  Hopefully I can maintain those numbers, not that the milestone chests are particularly good but every little bit right?

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Mar 19, 2025, 19:1903/19/25
06/24/19
2897
sharkium

Its some god damn lawyer language in that skill xD

You didnt take your LSATs before downloading Raid?  

Mar 19, 2025, 19:2903/19/25
12/19/19
6634

Doing all of champ training with spider may pot commit me with fk tomorrow and 10 sacreds 😆 

Hope champ gets on buff list... and yes I am last person that should do this since I don't gear champs...

Mar 19, 2025, 20:3503/19/25
01/31/20
1278
Trips

Doing all of champ training with spider may pot commit me with fk tomorrow and 10 sacreds 😆 

Hope champ gets on buff list... and yes I am last person that should do this since I don't gear champs...

That was exactly my decision process, but I decided to stop training at the Rare and call it done. If I was gonna do another 5K in training, I would've needed to pull a bunch of food to grind in SP20, and greens are nerfed so hard in DoF that it would've been blues and/or purples....so I would've been committed to the DoF.  I went the slacker route instead.