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Dec 10, 2024, 03:2712/10/24
07/01/22
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HHH: Harima Hydra Help

This is my Brutal run this week. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong... I'm assuming I need to find a way to get another 1500 Def or so but still, something seems off about my Harima's damage on Hydra given her current stats. The damage is waaaay too low and once she's fully ramped up with the +100% Def from her A2 even with her current Def of 4500 this seems like low damage. Any advice/tips would be greatly appreciated, I've been trying to get her on my Nightmare team but she's nowhere close to ready for that...


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Dec 10, 2024, 04:0512/10/24
12/19/19
6504

I have crappy harima builds so I've never used beyond brutal.  But tbh that defense and cd are too low.  I think I'm 6k 250cd in lethal stoneskin and pretty mid for both hydra and pvp tbh.

I'd rethink moving up harima. 

Dec 10, 2024, 05:0512/10/24
07/01/22
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Trips

I have crappy harima builds so I've never used beyond brutal.  But tbh that defense and cd are too low.  I think I'm 6k 250cd in lethal stoneskin and pretty mid for both hydra and pvp tbh.

I'd rethink moving up harima. 

Damn. I'm trying to get a reliable provoker on my team. I have Kantra but on Full auto she's not doing it enough. My other options are Souless, Martyr, Strategos, Drexthar and Freya, but she's already on the team.

Nekmo in Provoke and Shamael in Provoke keep it locked down well on my main team, especially since Shamael counterattacks when Decay places Heal Reduction

Dec 10, 2024, 06:5112/10/24
Dec 10, 2024, 06:51(edited)
01/31/20
1059

I concur w/Trips on your build.  She is not really ready for NM.

My Harima has 5942 Def & 290 CD in Savage.  

My Harima gets 2.5 to 3 times the damage that you are showing on a 1000 turn Brtual run, but a big part of that difference is that you don't have anyone putting out Weaken on that team.  

Dec 10, 2024, 07:1012/10/24
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WileyMan

I concur w/Trips on your build.  She is not really ready for NM.

My Harima has 5942 Def & 290 CD in Savage.  

My Harima gets 2.5 to 3 times the damage that you are showing on a 1000 turn Brtual run, but a big part of that difference is that you don't have anyone putting out Weaken on that team.  

It was a test run for Harima, Freya and Vizug with no reviver (not counting Cardi). Since it was full auto and I came back and saw 200 mil I decided to take it, but yeah next week it'll be balanced again

Dec 10, 2024, 08:2112/10/24
Dec 10, 2024, 08:21(edited)
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Trips

I have crappy harima builds so I've never used beyond brutal.  But tbh that defense and cd are too low.  I think I'm 6k 250cd in lethal stoneskin and pretty mid for both hydra and pvp tbh.

I'd rethink moving up harima. 

btw I rebuilt my A Team after changing up my B team (A team normally does Brutal, B normally does Hard, did Brutal with new B team as shown above) and I had my best run since Hydra patch. No Horse and Nekmo+Eostrid burnt through most of the turns but I'm happy with the result (especially since no reviver and no Shamwow). Nekmo died at 180mil otherwise I think I coulda hit 350mil 

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Dec 10, 2024, 13:0612/10/24
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Onikage55

Damn. I'm trying to get a reliable provoker on my team. I have Kantra but on Full auto she's not doing it enough. My other options are Souless, Martyr, Strategos, Drexthar and Freya, but she's already on the team.

Nekmo in Provoke and Shamael in Provoke keep it locked down well on my main team, especially since Shamael counterattacks when Decay places Heal Reduction

I use kantra as provoker on NM.  How close are u to Marius? 

Dec 11, 2024, 04:2412/11/24
07/01/22
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Trips

I use kantra as provoker on NM.  How close are u to Marius? 

Ok I have a Kantra question, mine is currently in 4 Piece Merciless and 4 Piece Reflex yet I swear they aren't stacking or something. I figured it was a great idea since she only has 1 active skill but now I'm wondering if maybe Relentless would be better...

Also I'm still on the first set of quests for Marius

Dec 11, 2024, 05:2312/11/24
01/31/20
1059

I have not tried Relentless with Merciless, but since Kantra does damage with both skills, you should be seeing alot of CD reduction.  

As for the other option, I have my Venus geared in Merciless & Relentless specifically for Hydra, and it works great.  I imagine that it would be sweet on Kantra as well.

Since you are specifcally working on Hydra Provoke, are you using Visix on any of your teams?  I use Visix as my NM Provoker, and she is really close to keeping Decay Provoked 100% of the time...and I get about 2X as much damage out of Visix as I ever got out of Kantra.  

Dec 11, 2024, 05:4612/11/24
07/01/22
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WileyMan

I have not tried Relentless with Merciless, but since Kantra does damage with both skills, you should be seeing alot of CD reduction.  

As for the other option, I have my Venus geared in Merciless & Relentless specifically for Hydra, and it works great.  I imagine that it would be sweet on Kantra as well.

Since you are specifcally working on Hydra Provoke, are you using Visix on any of your teams?  I use Visix as my NM Provoker, and she is really close to keeping Decay Provoked 100% of the time...and I get about 2X as much damage out of Visix as I ever got out of Kantra.  

I probably should start using visix. Kantra hits surprisingly hard on her A1 but the A2 sounded way better than it ended up being, since it will do the same debuffs if they're already out. Visix also has the decrease speed and Ally protection is still useful.

I have Mikage in Relentless + Merciless, which is why Ninja's damage is so high. Every extra turn she gets, he's hitting for 1 mil on decap heads

Dec 11, 2024, 14:4412/11/24
12/19/19
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Onikage55

Ok I have a Kantra question, mine is currently in 4 Piece Merciless and 4 Piece Reflex yet I swear they aren't stacking or something. I figured it was a great idea since she only has 1 active skill but now I'm wondering if maybe Relentless would be better...

Also I'm still on the first set of quests for Marius


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Probably worst kantra being used in NM hydra... 😆 

I haven't upgraded her gear in a looonnnngggg time


Dec 12, 2024, 03:0212/12/24
07/01/22
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Trips


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Probably worst kantra being used in NM hydra... 😆 

I haven't upgraded her gear in a looonnnngggg time


That is some great Res/Acc stats tho!