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Chimera Ram Form's Reflect Damage: Is it scaling correctly?

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Dec 7, 2024, 05:3412/07/24
07/01/22
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Chimera Ram Form's Reflect Damage: Is it scaling correctly?

The description says it's 25% Reflect, but it seems to be doing waaaaay more than that. My support champions like Pythion don't hit very hard but was losing almost half of his HP bar from his A1.

I know the Trials buff the boss in it's ultimate form so it can't be that. I've read through all the Ram's abilities + passives and I don't see anything that would majorly increase the amount Reflected so I'm concerned there's a bug/glitch with the way it calculates damage.

Also as a side note, I wonder if anyone is trying putting their Support champions in super high crit damage with low crit rate so the Duel effect goes onto a DPS instead. I mean if my two Supports have 310% Crit dmg and my 3 DPS all have 280-295, one of the DPS will get the Duel Debuff for *technically* having the lowest Crit Damage right?

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Dec 7, 2024, 06:3312/07/24
06/25/20
6747

Noticed the same. Wm/gs maybe?

Dec 7, 2024, 23:1612/07/24
12/16/21
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kramaswamy.kr

Noticed the same. Wm/gs maybe?

Same, pretty sure it was warmaster proc'ing that did me in.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 9, 2024, 21:5412/09/24
06/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Noticed the same. Wm/gs maybe?

I believe this is the case. 

Dec 9, 2024, 22:5212/09/24
06/25/20
6747

Is it intentional? This better not be another case of Plarium saying "hey let's add a cool mechanic that messes with peoples' normal mastery selection" like they did with Evil Eye.

Dec 9, 2024, 23:3712/09/24
12/19/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Is it intentional? This better not be another case of Plarium saying "hey let's add a cool mechanic that messes with peoples' normal mastery selection" like they did with Evil Eye.

I would imagine both were done by design. 

Dec 10, 2024, 06:5212/10/24
01/31/20
1050

The Ram Form of Chimera is definitely Reflecting Damage off of Warmaster on my runs as well. 

Amius messes you up good if you have too many Cycle of Magic procs, which I think is really dumb game design, but Plarium didn't ask my opinion.   

However, I must've missed something regarding Evil Eye?  I don't pick that very often, but I don't remember a game mechanic that punishes it too severely.  It is only 20%, and it only procs once, so Nether Spider & Sand Devil wouldn't kill you.

Dec 10, 2024, 13:448 days
06/25/20
6747

I meant cycle, misspoke.

Dec 10, 2024, 14:088 days
12/19/19
6496

Anyone try helicath or other block damage champ to not have to A1 ram?

Dec 10, 2024, 15:268 days
12/16/21
1313


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Is Monstrous Stomp working as intended?

Should it be doing 5+ hits in a row until the duel target is dead?


Using Elva, she's got the lowest crit on my team, gets targeted. She's doesn't have enough resist for NM difficulty

I used Yncensa to place poison cloud on her, every hit was a weak hit, yet Ram still just kept hitting her again and again until she died.

Tried this several times, each time the Ram did more than 5 hits all on Elva, never anyone else. Then I switched to Duchess, who DOES have enough resistance, and Ram just hits her twice then moves on.

Dec 10, 2024, 15:528 days
12/19/19
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MooredRat


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Is Monstrous Stomp working as intended?

Should it be doing 5+ hits in a row until the duel target is dead?


Using Elva, she's got the lowest crit on my team, gets targeted. She's doesn't have enough resist for NM difficulty

I used Yncensa to place poison cloud on her, every hit was a weak hit, yet Ram still just kept hitting her again and again until she died.

Tried this several times, each time the Ram did more than 5 hits all on Elva, never anyone else. Then I switched to Duchess, who DOES have enough resistance, and Ram just hits her twice then moves on.

I made nekmo (or lydia) lowest to avoid elva being target 

Dec 10, 2024, 15:558 days
12/19/19
6496

My nekmo always took hits til dead. Lydia had 450ish res i think and sometimes resisted i 

Dec 10, 2024, 16:388 days
12/16/21
1313

But I'm thinking *as written* it shouldn't be doing that?

It's look like he's doing his a1, placing the stun, geting the extra turn, then doing the a1 again, and placing the stun again even though it should already be there, repeat until dead.

And I don't *think* thats as intended, so I'm asking.

Dec 10, 2024, 18:008 days
12/19/19
6496

It says by this skill not specific turn... but idk

Could obviously interpret it either way.   I don't find it terribly intrusive to the run.  

I think the boss is easy enough to eke out top chests with minimal effort, while providing significant room for improvement with trials and such.  As I barely got the 2nd chest with combined NM and UNM 


Dec 10, 2024, 18:028 days
12/19/19
6496

The negative i see is that I'm guessing mythical champs will be required to max this...


Dec 10, 2024, 18:538 days
07/01/22
461
MooredRat

But I'm thinking *as written* it shouldn't be doing that?

It's look like he's doing his a1, placing the stun, geting the extra turn, then doing the a1 again, and placing the stun again even though it should already be there, repeat until dead.

And I don't *think* thats as intended, so I'm asking.

I've seen it do that in a few videos, where it just keeps hitting till the target is dead. I wonder if it is worded incorrectly, instead of Extra Turn should it be saying "Repeats this attack"?

Dec 10, 2024, 19:138 days
06/25/20
6747
Trips

The negative i see is that I'm guessing mythical champs will be required to max this...


Yeah - the sheer number of different effects that you need to bring to the fight feels impossible to attain without them.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 10, 2024, 19:368 days
06/24/19
2504
kramaswamy.kr

Is it intentional? This better not be another case of Plarium saying "hey let's add a cool mechanic that messes with peoples' normal mastery selection" like they did with Evil Eye.

My gut says yes but we are continuously feeding back this is awful game design.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 10, 2024, 19:368 days
06/24/19
2504
kramaswamy.kr

I meant cycle, misspoke.

Well to be fair we did have to remove Evil Eye or face the wrath of OG Bommal.

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Dec 10, 2024, 19:388 days
06/24/19
2504
MooredRat

But I'm thinking *as written* it shouldn't be doing that?

It's look like he's doing his a1, placing the stun, geting the extra turn, then doing the a1 again, and placing the stun again even though it should already be there, repeat until dead.

And I don't *think* thats as intended, so I'm asking.

Heard some reports about Ram acting a funny.  Ill let you know what I find out.  Id also like to add hes a big jerk.

Dec 11, 2024, 00:227 days
07/01/22
461
ShortOnSkillz

Heard some reports about Ram acting a funny.  Ill let you know what I find out.  Id also like to add hes a big jerk.

I'm getting concerned the Devs have an unhealthy obsession with sheep, between Polymorph and this Chimera form being as op as they are