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New Fusion Champ + Vizug + 3rd Ogryn = Ridiculously OP?

New Fusion Champ + Vizug + 3rd Ogryn = Ridiculously OP?

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Nov 21, 2024, 08:013 days
07/01/22
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New Fusion Champ + Vizug + 3rd Ogryn = Ridiculously OP?

Was watching Scratch's video showcasing the upcoming fusion for Ogryn champion Stokk... 

First thing is, he doesn't place HP Burn but he does activate it along with all poisons. So instantly we know he needs to be paired with a HP Burner. Before getting into his abilities, let's take a quick second to go over Vizug's A2 and Passive. A2 does HP Burn and 2 Poisons on all enemies. His Passive increases everyone's ACC by 10 per HP Burn and Poison out there with NO CAP on the bonus, with 1 Ally it increases all HP Burn and poison damage by 30%. With 2 Allies everyone deals 5% more damage to enemies per HP Burn or Poison.

Stokk's A3 places 3 Poisons and Weaken if targets have HP Burn, so that's 5 Poisons between him and Vizug right there. Plus HP Burn, that's 5x10x # of enemies for ACC increase. 

Stokk's A2 activates all poisons and HP Burns, then destroys Max hp by 3% per activated debuff so that's 18% Max HP destroyed for everyone. THEN his Passive says allies do 10% more damage to enemies with destroyed HP.

(EDIT: I don't think most Hydra heads, if any, can have their HP Destroys so Stokk's 10% bonus might not apply? Also I believe only 2 or 3 Hydra heads are able to be poisoned...)

So basically, once these two get rolling, enemies are taking 40% more damage (10%+30%) right there, not to mention Weaken being another 25%, if there's 3 total Ogryns (Vizug+Stokk+X). 

Now for Hydra, I'd say 3rd Ogryn is Uugo to be sure right? So that's Block Buffs, Decrease Defense, Weaken, Increase Acc, Increase Speed and +2 Turns on All Debuffs from Vizug's Faction A3 between those 3 Champions, getting anywhere from 5% to 30% bonus dmg depending on if Hydra heads have the poisons or just HP Burn

But the fact that Stokk's passive also says the damage from HP Burn and Poisons ignore Unkillable and Block Damage, I feel like they're trying to make him PVP Viable? Like, is Incinerate or Lethal Dose going to be worth it now? Vizug's passive is the 30% increase to the poison/hp burn damage, the Blessings are 200% poison dmg increase or 100% Hp burn increase... Is Poison Damage even reduced in Arena or does it just do the flat 5%... it reads like it does? So that would be 15% with Lethal Dose, possibly 20% depending on how Vizug's passive works (either additive or multiplicative). 5 Poisons going off at once would theoretically be 100% Max HP and that's not even getting into the 4% Max HP loss from HP Burn, times 4 people (3% + 30% from Vizug so 4% roughly) so that's 16% max HP loss across the board when Stokk does his A2 from HP Burn and then lets say, conservatively 17% Max HP per poison...

So 16% + 85% (17%x5) is 101% Max HP. Ignoring Block Damage and Unkillable... I think this is viable yes?


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Nov 21, 2024, 15:093 days
06/25/20
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Could be fun with gurpy, lydia, and trunda...

Nov 21, 2024, 20:523 days
Nov 21, 2024, 21:00(edited)
05/26/22
584

Hmmmm.... may want to play around with this guy and Kavalax. The only issue is you don't want so many poisons on someone that it blocks your ability to land a decrease speed and defense. I really wish there was a priority list with debuffs so if you threw out a decrease defense it would overwrite a poison. 

Does his activation of a burn also remove the burn? If so this could cause some issues working with other champions. You don't want him removing Geomancer's burn. I mean depending on how they synergize, him Kav and Artak would be a trio to speed run through things. 

This guy just seems fun to play with. I mean I might even dig up Guurda from my vault. 

Nov 21, 2024, 21:193 days
07/01/22
416
Shibb

Hmmmm.... may want to play around with this guy and Kavalax. The only issue is you don't want so many poisons on someone that it blocks your ability to land a decrease speed and defense. I really wish there was a priority list with debuffs so if you threw out a decrease defense it would overwrite a poison. 

Does his activation of a burn also remove the burn? If so this could cause some issues working with other champions. You don't want him removing Geomancer's burn. I mean depending on how they synergize, him Kav and Artak would be a trio to speed run through things. 

This guy just seems fun to play with. I mean I might even dig up Guurda from my vault. 

Activation usually is 1 tick off the current duration, which is why Vizug is so dangerous with him. But for Clan Boss, Stokk's A1 extends the duration of all poisons/hp burns by 1 turn, 50% chance per hit on 2 hits. 

However with Vizug, Vizug can extend all the durations on all opponents by 2 turns and his A1 is a AOE activation 50% chance.

Absolute decimation of Round 1 & 2 on dungeons as well as DT Floors, but I Really think the goal is to make Stokk the first Poison PVP champion to actually put Lethal Dose on