Well, the damage will go down for every team for 70-80%.

And this just because they do not implement a working Hydra Clash...

@mods

since they've lowered the max # of turns, have they also lowered the points for chests?

If not, is it too late to suggest it? Some of my clustermates are pointing out that they struggle to reach top chests now, and if they lose 1/3 of the turns they can take it'll put those chest out of reach for the foreseeable future.

If you are going over 1000 turns i don't think hitting top chest should be an issue unless I'm missing something? 

Personally I doubt I'll be affected. Maybe the Trunda nerf, we shall see.

But 1000 turns isn't enough. It's a start, but really it should be 500.

I meant the 1.2 billion for clash chests.

One of my clanmates was super proud to reach it for the first time in a single week, and deservedly so, big milestone.

Except with the lower turn count combined with taunt being worthless it'll probably take him at least several months before he can get back to that kinda damage output.

Agree they should adjust thresholds if non cheese comps only do 75 80% of damage as before.  

All changes are positive otherwise imo, always going to have acceptable casualties with a change of this magnitude.  

i agree lower it to 500 turns, 1000 is still to long

I run 3 teams all to 1500 turns. My nightmare team was a taunt loop.

Kind of annoyed, kind of relived. Hydra is a weekly annoyance that Im pretty over at this point. The only reason I even do it was for hydra clash to help the clan. 

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They aren't going to as of right now.  But they have said that doesn't mean they won't.  Going to take a wait and see approach with it, as they often do.

500 only if they also brought the milestone requirements down.  I know I could still get there without issue but Id consider myself an outlier on that.

Not really fussed, i will have to build a new spider team (i used to run double trunda) but meh.

Scores are going to drop across the board, even without the cheese teams. The devour change is big in my opinion. The hp bar for severed heads is huge as well.

Not a problem i guess, however i dont understand why the consolation chests have remained the same (the 1.2b score ones)

The cynical part of me half expects a new range of champs which are perfect for the new hydra and have expensive flip card tournaments for them 

My seat of the pants estimate is that regular teams will do less than 50% of the damage they were doing previosuly:  

• 1000 max turns vs 1500
• Far less damage to decapitated heads before they respawn, which is where damage really stacked up from.  
• Heads respawning faster means toons are devoured faster, which means you hit the two turn devour counter faster, which means more and more damage required to free toons....vicous cycle.  

1B Clash Point teams will be doing 400K... 

A lot of math out there suggesting significant drops out there, while plarium stating that won't be the case... I'm guessing somewhere in the middle.  I think some of the changes are supposed to increase damage, of course everyone ignoring that :)

I'll just wait and see next week. I think I'll be able to do 300M with my same team on NM.

I love how this is an opportuntiy to actually buff Trunda.  

But other than Trunda's buffs, what do you see that is going to increase damage output of other toons? 

Better AI on auto

Yeah I feel like Marius still gets it done in one key for the top 1.2 billion chest

Are there further changes to the AI?  I must've missed that.  I actually considered more AI improvements to be a missed opportunity.

All I saw concerning AI in the video was a comment about the AI targetting a head that devoured a toon. That change is already active from a couple of weeks ago.

MaxHP will do significantly more damage to decap 

Here's something I need clarification on and I don't think it needs its own thread:

If 2 Heads regrow simultaneously, only one has the 100% Serpent Will Damage REduction.

Ok, what happens if 3 or 4 regrow at once? Will only one have the buff or will they all have it except one? So 3 regrow = 2 buffs 1 without and 4 regrow = 3 buffs and 1 without?

Only 2 ever regrow simultaneously