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Hydra Head Regrowth Question: Bug or WAI?

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Jul 10, 2024, 03:5207/10/24
07/01/22
479
dthorne04

best suggestion I can make is drop a screenshot of your roster since unless you're carrying two Yumekos, Shu-Zhen, Gurp & Lanakis with your Trunda, teams can vary quite a bit

No 2nd Yumeko, no Shu-Zhen, no Gurp. Two Lanakis that aren't built. I should probably just create a new thread asking for help since this one is pretty much settled for the original topic

dthorne04Moderator
Jul 10, 2024, 04:0107/10/24
12/30/20
6340
Onikage55

No 2nd Yumeko, no Shu-Zhen, no Gurp. Two Lanakis that aren't built. I should probably just create a new thread asking for help since this one is pretty much settled for the original topic

Couldn't hurt. :)

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jul 10, 2024, 09:1807/10/24
06/24/19
2536
Onikage55

Well I just realized last week was my 2 year Anniversary on the Forums, so the Best Mod should get me a B-Day Cake correct?

This seems a reasonable request, yes.  @dthorne04 please oblige.

Jul 10, 2024, 20:1107/10/24
12/07/20
123
dthorne04

the main issue I can envision is if/when trunda gets chomped - which makes shamael/another DPS around in the trunda teams that aren't completely streamlined to just go nuke nuke nuke for 1500 turns.


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1st try, full auto

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 10, 2024, 21:1707/10/24
02/24/19
8019
Trips

So tldr of this thread.  Everything WAI, bunch of hydra n00bs questioning things that haven't changed in years?

Other than carpe none of you understand hydra yet? 😆 

I just had to watch the videos to ensure that was what was happening, then collect the correct screenshot from the boss info. :)

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 10, 2024, 21:2007/10/24
02/24/19
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dax


i

1st try, full auto

Nice! 

If you can get Emic into the best combo of Reflex, Impulse, Merciless and/Refresh accessories that's just the absolute royal flush for him in Hydra. 

Mine is Merciless, Reflex and one Refresh piece for the most A2 free cooldowns I can get.

Jul 10, 2024, 21:2607/10/24
Jul 10, 2024, 21:50(edited)
07/01/22
479
dax


i

1st try, full auto

I'd hope so, you have Emic too. Wasn't shown in your first SS with the 3 teams you were using. Not sure why you weren't already using Emic in the first place? Again grats on the lucky pulls for champs and soulstones. Really reinforces my other thread showing how Soulstone Rewards from Hydra should be increased.

I am confused by two things tho, why Arbiter and Lydia if you're bringing Eostrid? Eostrid does the inc speed, inc atk and weaken. With Emic reducing CD's doubling up on that might not be optimal, you could bring another nuker or Hexer in Arbiter's place and swap Lydia for Uugo or something?

Here, since you probably have Gurptuk too, try this team and see if you can get over 4 Billion

https://youtu.be/GL7Q_aPsdcA?si=30hFOeqFsa-Jv1gK

Jul 10, 2024, 22:1507/10/24
11/16/20
1169
harleQuinn

Nice! 

If you can get Emic into the best combo of Reflex, Impulse, Merciless and/Refresh accessories that's just the absolute royal flush for him in Hydra. 

Mine is Merciless, Reflex and one Refresh piece for the most A2 free cooldowns I can get.

curious about this. I use full protection gear on my emic, 1 piece short of the 9 piece bonus atm, but this keeps the %3 chance of getting taunt stolen and then a champion eaten pretty low next to zero. Of course the first time someone gets eaten or even second time should be recoverable I still like protection on emic.

Jul 10, 2024, 22:1907/10/24
06/25/20
6757
dax


i

1st try, full auto

Still no idea how you guys are pulling this off. I have that exact team. Does it really come down to the blessing level?

Jul 10, 2024, 22:2707/10/24
07/01/22
479
kramaswamy.kr

Still no idea how you guys are pulling this off. I have that exact team. Does it really come down to the blessing level?

Seriously? Have you seen what Crushing Rend does at 6 stars? Plus a Rank 5 AOE Cruelty? That's not even getting into the +750 Atk, +600 Def, +38 Crit Dmg and +15 Speed for the blessing bonuses beyond its core ability. Go look up what Crushing Rend does specifically at Rank 6 and then you'll understand how Billions is possible

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jul 10, 2024, 22:3007/10/24
06/24/19
2536
kramaswamy.kr

Still no idea how you guys are pulling this off. I have that exact team. Does it really come down to the blessing level?

Blessings, gear and area bonuses really.  6* Rend is an absolute cheat code though.

Jul 10, 2024, 22:3107/10/24
12/07/20
123
harleQuinn

Nice! 

If you can get Emic into the best combo of Reflex, Impulse, Merciless and/Refresh accessories that's just the absolute royal flush for him in Hydra. 

Mine is Merciless, Reflex and one Refresh piece for the most A2 free cooldowns I can get.

hes presenty in Rghteous/Resilience, cause that was what was on, just set up a Refex/Impulse build in gear presets that will get fitted befor i next run team, ie when its free!!

Jul 10, 2024, 22:4507/10/24
07/01/22
479
ShortOnSkillz

Blessings, gear and area bonuses really.  6* Rend is an absolute cheat code though.

Yeah Crushing Rend really redefines "High Awakening Bonus" lol. To go from "First hit of the round" to "Every Hit + 1% Def per 10 target levels" against a level 280 Boss...

Jul 10, 2024, 22:5807/10/24
12/07/20
123
Onikage55

I'd hope so, you have Emic too. Wasn't shown in your first SS with the 3 teams you were using. Not sure why you weren't already using Emic in the first place? Again grats on the lucky pulls for champs and soulstones. Really reinforces my other thread showing how Soulstone Rewards from Hydra should be increased.

I am confused by two things tho, why Arbiter and Lydia if you're bringing Eostrid? Eostrid does the inc speed, inc atk and weaken. With Emic reducing CD's doubling up on that might not be optimal, you could bring another nuker or Hexer in Arbiter's place and swap Lydia for Uugo or something?

Here, since you probably have Gurptuk too, try this team and see if you can get over 4 Billion

https://youtu.be/GL7Q_aPsdcA?si=30hFOeqFsa-Jv1gK

this team has been a work in progress since clash came out, started at 400k and slowly increased as team improved, altered etc, 6star crushing rend made a huge difference, allowed me to stick Trunda in lead 

never used Emic in Hydra till today, never thought to try him in team

Trunda had a bad habbit of nukeing herself with reflect damage, so needed a reviver, she also outrun her atk buffs with Shameal boosting her, was using Nekmo in Eostrid spot tilll few weeks ago, so still a work in progress

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Jul 10, 2024, 23:5807/10/24
06/24/19
2536
Onikage55

Yeah Crushing Rend really redefines "High Awakening Bonus" lol. To go from "First hit of the round" to "Every Hit + 1% Def per 10 target levels" against a level 280 Boss...

It's ridiculous the blessing alone can move a Trunda team up one or two difficulties.

Jul 11, 2024, 00:0707/11/24
Jul 11, 2024, 00:08(edited)
07/01/22
479
dax

this team has been a work in progress since clash came out, started at 400k and slowly increased as team improved, altered etc, 6star crushing rend made a huge difference, allowed me to stick Trunda in lead 

never used Emic in Hydra till today, never thought to try him in team

Trunda had a bad habbit of nukeing herself with reflect damage, so needed a reviver, she also outrun her atk buffs with Shameal boosting her, was using Nekmo in Eostrid spot tilll few weeks ago, so still a work in progress

Do you have Uugo? I totally get the Reflect Damage concern, as well as Pain Link, but Uugo can block buffs + Decrease defense AND has a cleanse to remove that Pain Link. I'd swap Uugo for Lydia in your current comp. 

Rakka Viletide would be a good replacement for Arbiter, but as a void leggo you she's more rare to get. Gorgorab wouldn't be bad either. Both have Revive + Increased Atk and TM Boost. 

HOWEVER there's also Godseeker. Not only does she extend buffs like Increase Atk, but if she did revive Trunda or Emic she'd reset their cooldowns.

2.5 Billion is an insanely high score for a Work In Progress so you should be very proud

Jul 11, 2024, 01:4007/11/24
07/08/19
995
Onikage55

Do you have Uugo? I totally get the Reflect Damage concern, as well as Pain Link, but Uugo can block buffs + Decrease defense AND has a cleanse to remove that Pain Link. I'd swap Uugo for Lydia in your current comp. 

Rakka Viletide would be a good replacement for Arbiter, but as a void leggo you she's more rare to get. Gorgorab wouldn't be bad either. Both have Revive + Increased Atk and TM Boost. 

HOWEVER there's also Godseeker. Not only does she extend buffs like Increase Atk, but if she did revive Trunda or Emic she'd reset their cooldowns.

2.5 Billion is an insanely high score for a Work In Progress so you should be very proud

why replace her at all? gorgorab is literally just Arbiter, But Worse and while rakka's kit does deviate somewhat, i can't see anything in there that would justify swapping her into this team either.

harleQuinnModerator
Jul 11, 2024, 03:2307/11/24
02/24/19
8019

Agree with Carpe. No reason at all to replace her, imo. Eostrid works great until you're ready to cut down on losing total number of turns to her extra turn mechanic. 

Lanakis can be better than Arbiter and her though, sometimes. That is if you add in Gurptuk for the bonus damage, block buffs and cleanse. Not always though depending on your tune.


harleQuinnModerator
Jul 11, 2024, 03:2607/11/24
02/24/19
8019
evilized6666

curious about this. I use full protection gear on my emic, 1 piece short of the 9 piece bonus atm, but this keeps the %3 chance of getting taunt stolen and then a champion eaten pretty low next to zero. Of course the first time someone gets eaten or even second time should be recoverable I still like protection on emic.

Extra resets are the difference between small big damage, and actually really big damage. Have seen the best success in the teams I've made eschewing protection. If you're worried about buff steal you're not piling A2s fast enough, from my own experiences. :)

Jul 11, 2024, 04:5807/11/24
Jul 11, 2024, 05:07(edited)
07/01/22
479
Carpe_Piscis

why replace her at all? gorgorab is literally just Arbiter, But Worse and while rakka's kit does deviate somewhat, i can't see anything in there that would justify swapping her into this team either.

Yeah and it frees up Arbiter for another team since most people have 3 Hydra teams for different difficulties to max rewards, hence Gorgorab. However if you just want a pure 1 team, I'd go with Rakka over Arbiter since she also cleanses, does a shield and block debuffs is optional.

Godseeker could potentially be even better, depending on how the runs go. If Trunda dies, reviving her with all skills Reset each time could have a overall better damage increase.

Anyways its just my suggestion, not saying their team is wrong. They said its a "Work in progress" so swapping champs to see what happens is worth doing since the keys are infinite use