what was your team, I dont see how this can happen lol

I mean yeah, like I keep saying - he can solo anything that can be tm controlled, including arena teams. Though he won't be able to do that against better built teams ofc, since he'd need upwards of 400 acc and 300 spd to properly tm control, which is tough to pull off. But I fully expect him to dominate the meta alongside other tm and acc boosters (hai kimiiii)

The champs really are getting out of hand lol, older ones sorely need buffing to catch up to this nonsense.

Take septimus for example, good old hardhitter, came gnut, does exact same attack but 3 times with same cooldown. While im happy to use my armanz i wish they didnt introduce such clearly overpowered champs.

He's encouraging a lot more SS in arena, and bringing speed meta back.

But to kramas point, I used him to solo every cursed city hard stage I had him available in just as a test.  He can probably tear up DT as well.  Doesn't even need strong gear for pve.

so it  was TTA  but.........................

my team was Lead Duchess  /  Venus / and her husband (forgive  me forget name) / and the Mythical Dwarf that steals all buffs

so to clarify it was not classic arena against my speed tuned arbiter team

Hes ridiculously strong.  Definitely can be very frustrating going against one.

Poor Septimus is badly in need of a buff.  It's sad when an Uncommon can be used in more places than him.

Released too soon, wait'll people start getting Horsey to counter Cap'n Jack

in my dreams :/

someday I hope

Armiger just way better, stinks for me since I have SeptIVmus 

actually even worse for me

because I use to own my very copy of Septimus  back in the day...but that was a very long time ago

RAGE quit RAID and fed all my legos (36 of them) to lower champions....only later to return to the game and start over

Its a stark reminder to me to see  him lighted  up on the INDEX and to not actually own him anymore  :/

Good news is you can +4 and he's still just as useful and you'll save that vault space.

He is good but definitely counterable.

If he doesnt get a turn, he isnt any good- so if you are quicker, kill him unless he is in SS

If the opponents are full stoneskin then his steal wont work.. his turnmeter steal can also be resisted - and getting the required 700 ish accuracy to beat late game resistance and the 300 ish speed to have a chance of going first isnt easy.

I rank him as great for pve and will use for cursed city a lot if available... for pvp he is defnitely good, but better than the monkey? not sure.

I'm not going to say 300/700 is trivially easy, but for most late game accounts I don't think it will be hard with ascensions and soon 5* blessings in play

you're also going to see a lot of him in stone skin, I'd bet

You already see 300+/700 in stoneskin 😆 

accurate 😂

And much much higher, TBH

Even I can do better and my account is not that crazy. 😅

While i can do 300/700, i cant do that in stoneskin- i dare say whales, and ftp accounts that are 4+ years may be able to do but i imagine the number who can do that to be small. In prot? sure i have nearly 400 speed in prot, but not in stoneskin.

Besides, if you see an armanz in stoneskin, surely you are just going to sheep him?

presumably it won't always be that simple at higher echelons of arena in that it'll become a question of what's around the Armanz. I think we're going to want to not have to sheep him, most of the time

going to get get really interesting in live arena too where I think we're going to see more & more nukers in stone skin.

I know you mods feedback and talk - so the one thing that I don't understand - when I started playing Arbiter was the best you could get - now it seems every update with release of new champs they are bringing stupidly OP champs out - my question is why?  Why so much emphasis on releasing one hideously OP champ that can negate a well worked arena team that has been properly built with gear/masteries/synergy (remember those old values?)  or solo City/DT/Dungeon levels. Older champs are in the main vault guardians and even 'buffs' are cursory and bring them nowhere near the level of these new monsters