Very interesting take with some notable points. 90% of the Raid SL community is behind you, we all sing in similar tunes about how Plarium could make this brilliant game sustainable.

You will notice the longer you play though, that the company doesn't seem to intend on making this great game inhabitable for low spending players through the ads like you've already touched on, and events, tournaments etc. 

There are some mods you'll see around the forums who seem to care about what the player base is saying like Cirilla, however little to nothing gets acted on and overwhelmingly players find more things to complain about than praise. 

That being said, a lot of players will moan for the sake of moaning, but there are some absolutely solid points that the community brings up time and time again like not having enough energy (cap should be doubled at least, I believe I have seen mods saying this will happen but don't quote me, and don't quote them either), not having enough vault space (which is apparently being adjusted soon), pricing of said ads being over and above anything regular people are willing to pay, unbalanced heroes on both sides of the coin, namely Legendary heroes that are less useful than many rares, the list goes on.

In summary, this game as we all agree is brilliant and has SO much potential if it is managed correctly. But the clear motive from the developers and lack of trust in their community suggestions turns a lot of players quite sour who end up quitting.

Hey Hey

I am sorry to hear, I have promptly forwarded your feedback to the CM's/devs for review.

Thanks for the feedback!

Good luck and have fun.

Honestly, the longer I play, the more I realize how the game is designed in every possible way to get you to pay them money. So they recently closed the potion dungeons. Thought that was really weird. Then I got the popup add telling me I can pay $20 for a package containing 15 each advanced potions ... and THAT is why they closed the dungeons. 

The trouble with all of this money-grabbing is that you're missing out on the long game. Eventually the word gets around: Raid Shadow Legends is a money-grabbing nightmare and no matter how much you advertise, new people will stop showing up and you'll bleed out your active player base who will all quit out of growing frustration. Take Pokemon Go for example. Pop-ups at login never have anything to do with begging for in-game purchases. They're only ever about events. That game has been going for years and years and it's still making crap-tons of money. Same thing with Clash of Clans. Those games will still be around making money hand over fist years after RSL fades into irrelevance. Why? Because they built a sustainable game that didn't drive players away. 

It's a simple game of psychology. Your worst ideas: 

1. Energy. Every single player can expect to repeatedly hit a wall that will lead them to ask the fairly obvious question: "Why am I still playing this game? Is it time to stop and focus on more important things in my life? Maybe I should take my family out to do something fun instead." You're goal is obvious here. "Pay us money and you can keep playing our game." This utterly fails at understanding video gamers. We get hooked on a game. We want to keep playing. The longer you have a gamer addicted, the more committed they feel and the more likely they are to be willing to pay out money in the long term. 

2. Silver to Upgrade, equip, remove, swap and do pretty much everything with your characters. Utilizing shiny new gear and swapping gear around to test things out should be easy, fun and exciting. You've made it a complete nightmare. It's the same thing as item 1. You're doing it to make money, but you're failing to understand gamers. You're interrupting the process of getting addicted to the game over and over and over again. You're making people question, "Why am i still playing this game??" repeatedly. Do you want your players to ask themselves that question multiple times every single day?? 

3. Shutting down upgrade dungeons. And then it comes: The popup to spend your $20 cash for the upgrade potions that you've just been denied access to. Again, you're throwing up another instance that makes your players question, "Why am I still playing this game??" 

4. In-game purchases kinda suck. You don't actually get much for the money you spend. 

5. Nothing to do but grind. After you've cleared the campaign, the entire game is built around grind. Grind for silver, grind for gear, grind for levels. Grind, grind, grind. Clan boss is a grind. Arena is a grind. All of your events seem to center around grinding. If I grind my way up really really far, what do I get to do with it? Just more grinding. How about doing something fun just because it's fun?? How about doing that as often as you can possibly manage it?? 

6. Not listening to your players. You've got a whole lot of players who say they've been making suggestions for ages and nothing ever gets fixed. You're reviews on the Google Play store are like a broken record too. "I didn't like it because." followed by Plarium stating, "If you don't like it, don't click it or just don't play the game at all." You can't have a sustainable game unless you listen to your customers. 

You're game was instantly addicting. All of the downsides burned me out faster than I've ever experienced before. I'm still playing the game, but I'm right on the verge of quitting. The core game system is great. Eliminate all the downsides and maybe you can make a lot more money in the long run. We all do get it. You're goal is to make as much money as possible, and I'm telling you that you're pissing away the long term revenues for short term ones. 

Pity it will be ignored. Just quit now - there is no hope.

I am thinking about that too. If everything is so grindy it needs to be automated not to drive people away we have core mechanics issue.

This rarely gets fixed by patches. It more likely requires complete overhaul (at least 180 degree execs mindset change)

one round taking 10-20 minutes on manual with almost guaranteed progress is much better than 100 rounds taking 6s each (on auto) - having minimal chances for anything usefull.

GranTorino said:

Very interesting take with some notable points. 90% of the Raid SL community is behind you, we all sing in similar tunes about how Plarium could make this brilliant game sustainable.

You will notice the longer you play though, that the company doesn't seem to intend on making this great game inhabitable for low spending players through the ads like you've already touched on, and events, tournaments etc. 

There are some mods you'll see around the forums who seem to care about what the player base is saying like Cirilla, however little to nothing gets acted on and overwhelmingly players find more things to complain about than praise. 

That being said, a lot of players will moan for the sake of moaning, but there are some absolutely solid points that the community brings up time and time again like not having enough energy (cap should be doubled at least, I believe I have seen mods saying this will happen but don't quote me, and don't quote them either), not having enough vault space (which is apparently being adjusted soon), pricing of said ads being over and above anything regular people are willing to pay, unbalanced heroes on both sides of the coin, namely Legendary heroes that are less useful than many rares, the list goes on.

In summary, this game as we all agree is brilliant and has SO much potential if it is managed correctly. But the clear motive from the developers and lack of trust in their community suggestions turns a lot of players quite sour who end up quitting.

I think exactly like both of you. Though sadly we're in 2020 now and nothing to not much has changed on those points. If they want the game to be awesome they have to make it awesome, cause it has awesome roots, for real, but the leaves suck real bad. (Yup raid is a tree now) :(

Some problems are: IAP prices (seriously), the pop ups, unfair RNG chances in some places of the game (that I think they are at least looking into this A BIT), potion mixer (wth fix that thing, really, cmon, I barely use it cause I need my silver, and I'm not alone, silver is not THAT easy to get), and in my opinion to stick me around FOR LONG (personally), friendly PvP! All games I know have it except for Raid. Lastly, ENERGY, yeahhhh, we all know it's not going anywhere, but I (and lotsss of people) have a mindset that most games with energy systems are shit, just um, well, yeah. There are also many other points that really really really REALLY need to be done something about but those are some very big ones :/ (they are facts and not just my opinion)

The game is so much fun (and alot of this fun gets ruined but yeh), I just don't think it is enough in it's current state to keep us all playing!

It makes me sad that they seem to only care for money grabbing with sucky ways when they have so much potential for getting money with better ways. I hope they read us all and act once and for all.

Funny thing, I'm a mobile game developer, and seeing all this just make me cringe, like... no one would take such approches plarium, it's not too late. :|

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