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Oct 11, 2023, 15:3210/11/23
10/11/23
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Seer's speed in Hard DT

I was just wanting to find out if there is a speed to run Seer at for Valk waves on hard so they don't cut in? I currently am 248 speed. It's more curiosity and also that I haven't seen anyone ask or answer this question.


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Oct 11, 2023, 15:5110/11/23
06/25/20
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Stage 103 Valk has 224 SPD. The actual math around whether she'll cut in is *very* complex, and one which if you truly want to get the exact number, you'd be best off using Excel to plot it all out. You'd need to start with the base tick formula, figure out who is going first, get the TM count on all the champs after they act, and then reduce the TM count on each champ who receives a buff by 10% for each buff they receive, and increase the tick count on Valk by 10% for each buff placed.

As an example of the first step in this chain, suppose you had Lydia lead with her A2, which places two buffs on each of your five champs, and suppose you had Lydia with 300 SPD and Seer with 270 SPD (and everyone else slower, for this example):

Lydia TM per Tick: 300 * 0.07 = 21

Seer TM per Tick: 270 * 0.07 = 18.9

Valk TM per Tick: 224 * 0.07 = 15.68

100/21 = 4.76 --> 5 ticks to reach full TM

Seer TM after 5 ticks = 94.5

Valk TM after 5 ticks: 78.4

Seer TM after two buffs placed by Lydia: 87.5*0.9*0.9 = 76.545

Valk TM after two buffs placed by Lydia: 78.4*1.1*1.1 = 94.38

Seer new TM per Tick after SPD Up = 24.57

Seer TM after 6 ticks = 101.115

Valk TM after 6 ticks = 110.06

And so, even with that very basic example, you can see how complex it gets - and just how much speed you'd need to have if you wanted to run someone with buffs to enable Seer. Probably a better avenue would be to have someone with CC to control the Valk, so that you can let them cut ahead and lose their turn. 


Oct 11, 2023, 19:3210/11/23
06/25/20
6719

Le sigh. Annoying that I bothered writing that all out without looking -_-

ShortOnSkillzModerator
Oct 11, 2023, 20:1510/11/23
06/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Le sigh. Annoying that I bothered writing that all out without looking -_-

Oh no.  Kram with an extensive explanation gets bot wrecked.  I'll give you a solid 👍 though sir.

dthorne04Moderator
Oct 11, 2023, 21:1910/11/23
12/30/20
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Daehawk Gaming

Is there a reason why the Feedback "Artifact unequip suggestion" one from 2021 is left there? 

Given that I and other mods lack clairvoyance, that might be it 

Oct 11, 2023, 21:2110/11/23
06/13/23
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dthorne04

Given that I and other mods lack clairvoyance, that might be it 

Ch ch ch slackin =P thought you guys said you read every post lol. I had mentioned it as well in the "curious about reddit spam bots" post lol. 

dthorne04Moderator
Oct 11, 2023, 21:2210/11/23
12/30/20
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I recall seeing it, but sometimes life gets in the way and stuff goes by the wayside. 😂