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I can't progress. 8mnths and I haven't budged an inch

I can't progress. 8mnths and I haven't budged an inch

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Jun 13, 2023, 17:0506/13/23
06/13/23
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I can't progress. 8mnths and I haven't budged an inch


Is there ANY way to earn gold from Arena without achieving Gold level. I cannot progress through progress missions without earning gold Arena tokens. I've NEVER made it past about 1/3rd of Silver Tier IV. Is there ANY way to earn gold from Arena without achieving Gold level. I cannot progress through progress missions without earning gold Arena tokens. I've NEVER made it past about 1/3rd of Silver Tier IV. 

Logically, I see no way of bridging the gap between my available champions and the teams put out by older players. I'm lucky if I even get a turn without being swamped, controlled, stunned or frozen. I've grown to loathe the Arena and I'm at end of my tether. I've never encountered a game that hinges progress on a single feature. 

Logically, I see no way of bridging the gap between my available champions and the teams put out by older players. I'm lucky if I even get a turn without being swamped, controlled, stunned or frozen. I've grown to loathe the Arena and I'm at end of my tether. I've never encountered a game that hinges progress on a single feature. Logically, I see no way of bridging the gap between my available champions and the teams put out by older players. I'm lucky if I even get a turn without being swamped, controlled, stunned or frozen. I've grown to loathe the Arena and I'm at end of my tether. I've never encountered a game that hinges progress on a single feature. 

I'm not looking for advice on champions or equipment. I've got what I've got. I need a method to progress without making it to Gold Tier in the Arena, or there's just no point in me bashing my head against a brick wall. :(





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dthorne04Moderator
Jun 13, 2023, 17:1406/13/23
12/30/20
6231

So while I understand you're not interested in showing off your champs/gearing...without seeing those there's not really much anyone is going to be able to tell you. =/ 

There's not really a magic bullet as it pertains to improving in Arena, especially without seeing champs and their gearing/masteries. Can improve at picking fights, understanding how to beat certain champions with what you have available but without seeing ones progress in the game it's tough to say much of anything, substance wise. 

harleQuinnModerator
Jun 13, 2023, 17:4006/13/23
02/24/19
7972

No, there are no ways of earning gold medals from Arena without making it to Gold Arena.

As far as not showing things off, getting advice on building and strategies is how we improve. I would encourage you to post your roster and share what Arena team you're using. The folks here are pretty nice and will give you some good suggestions that WILL help you progress.

Barring that... watch this video:

How to build a great speed/nuke team to climb to Silver and Gold Arena https://youtu.be/rfTNsJSPLOM 

Jun 13, 2023, 21:0006/13/23
06/13/23
3

Thanks for the honest responses I guess. Essentially I'm right. There's no point joining as a new player. Gold Tier belongs to the older players, but unlike most games based around grinding and progression, there's no route to progression. There's a built in stumbling block. A gap that can't possibly be closed. 

Wish I'd known that sooner. :/

Jun 13, 2023, 21:1306/13/23
Jun 13, 2023, 21:15(edited)
06/13/23
3


I don't think you 'get it'. As a newer player, my gear is always going do be lesser than those who've been playing longer. There are no 'tips' you can give me to bridge that gap. My strongest team can get whacked by a single overpowered champ. 'd be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver their where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 

I' d be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver teir where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 'd be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver their where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 

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That's ridiculous. You get that, right?  :/





dthorne04Moderator
Jun 13, 2023, 21:1606/13/23
12/30/20
6231

is there an echo in here?

all jokes aside: this is a self defeating approach to it and guarantees you can't succeed because of not trying to improve the situation. 

it's completely up to you, but I assure you many, many players starting later into the game have made it into Gold Classic Arena. 

Jun 13, 2023, 21:3006/13/23
Jun 13, 2023, 21:31(edited)
06/13/23
3

Yeah... that makes sense. The strongest team I can field can't stand up to a single souped up champ. Don't talk nonsense about 'defeatist arguments' and willingness to learn. The game dynamics aren't complicated. I know the champs and gear I need do progress. I don't have them, and I can't get them without progression I'm stuck in a pointless loop of broken game design the likes of which I've never encountered before. 

Jun 13, 2023, 21:3606/13/23
12/19/19
6459

Pebcak


Jun 13, 2023, 22:3306/13/23
04/24/22
820

Lmao .. for all the roadblock raid offers .. you stuck on arena  ? LmFao ... Hint .. im gold 5 non stop for a year and i started roughly 15 months ago ...

Lets start off by how i do have 2 hrs in the morning and around 4 hrs in the evening to play raid , so i maximize the free refresh . 

In 15 months .. 11 of those are in gold tier 4-5. I use the refresh to find daily ..over 10+ solo champ defense , weak team , teams i can win 100%


Feels like these new players have to go toe to toe with the meta asap instead of just riding the grind wave until they reach that point ...

Jun 13, 2023, 22:3506/13/23
05/03/20
1861
Iron Elf

Yeah... that makes sense. The strongest team I can field can't stand up to a single souped up champ. Don't talk nonsense about 'defeatist arguments' and willingness to learn. The game dynamics aren't complicated. I know the champs and gear I need do progress. I don't have them, and I can't get them without progression I'm stuck in a pointless loop of broken game design the likes of which I've never encountered before. 

I got into Gold with a bad team.  You need to carefully choose your battles.   Dont fight every team in the arena.  Look for one champ teams with weak champs.  They are out there.  I set an alarm for every 15 mins to check the arena.  If you spend 2-3 hours per day with the game, you can get into Gold.  

If you have been playing for 8 months you have some good login champs.  


Jun 13, 2023, 22:3606/13/23
05/03/20
1861
Trips

Pebcak


Are you muttering in Armenian again? 

Jun 14, 2023, 01:0306/14/23
06/25/20
6720
ClosedPoly

Are you muttering in Armenian again? 

Acronym. Problem exists between chair and keyboard :)

Jun 14, 2023, 07:2006/14/23
02/28/22
270
Iron Elf


I don't think you 'get it'. As a newer player, my gear is always going do be lesser than those who've been playing longer. There are no 'tips' you can give me to bridge that gap. My strongest team can get whacked by a single overpowered champ. 'd be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver their where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 

I' d be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver teir where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 'd be cool with that, and happy to splash about in the shallow end of silver their where I belong... But some eejit with no concept of game design linked that to basic progression in a step I can't even bypass and come back to later. 

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That's ridiculous. You get that, right?  :/





I'm not sure you 'get it' if there was indeed a roadblock for ftp newbies nobody would stay, but there isn't, there is so much advice here and on sites like Hell Hades and Ayumi for players of all levels, and it might be worth you viewing HH's progress with a new account as a ftp - if you're 'stuck' it's nothing to do with the game mechanics and probably that you're doing it wrong

Jun 14, 2023, 08:0706/14/23
09/28/19
11

It's understandable that you're feeling frustrated with your progress in the Arena and the difficulty in bridging the gap between your champions and those of more "experienced" players. However, it might be more beneficial to shift your focus towards other aspects of the game, such as the Clan Boss. Engaging in Clan Boss battles can provide rewards and progression opportunities that are not solely dependent on the Arena. This way, you can still enjoy meaningful gameplay without feeling constrained by a single feature, especially if you prefer not to spend money.

In some cases, periodically refreshing, might provide alternative opponents or "easy kills", potentially offering a different experience. While not a guaranteed solution, it's worth exploring as an option to potentially alleviate the frustrations faced.

Sometimes i take months long brakes because of how unbalanced Arena is and how much it annoys me, but i like the game and always come back. Now i try to focus on what i enjoy the most, PVE if i can call it that and the cherry on the cake, Clan Boss, i'm focused on building a killer team for NM and UNM.

Arena now, for me at least, i go in, refresh, if i can do a battle, i do, if i can't, i don't. Remember to prioritize your own happiness and engage in activities that bring you joy and relaxation.

Jun 14, 2023, 10:1306/14/23
10/01/22
463

ur problem is , is ur actually trying to devlop teams to overcome all these people ur fighting, when you simply dont need to.


1) step 1, put in the best arena def you have, doesnt matter if its going to lose 9/10 fights

2) step 2, build an arena team thats at least capeable of killing 1 person

3) step 3, do not enter ANY arena battle that you have a reasonable chance of losing, instead keep clicking the refresh button every 15 mins and take the "free wins" aka the people with 1 man teams


by doing this method you will get all the way to gold 5 no problem at all, and when ur at gold 5 you just repeat the same thing and only take free wins, the ranking system of gold 5 means that even if ur arena def is beaten 20 times in a day, as long as you keep using all ur arena tokens daily and winning you CANT get deranked (system has a point system where you can only lose so many pts a day in gold 5 then you will stop losing them) which means doing this method means you will only climb and win 4 gold tokens per arena battle, consistently.