Something else to consider - the answer may very well be "both", especially for Spider. If Sicia is faster than Artak, you go Sicia A3 -> A2 into Artak A2. Assuming someone goes before them, that'll mean 11 HPBurns placed by Sicia and then detonated, another 11 from Artak, and then another 11 from them when they get their turns. Each is 3%, for a total of 99%. Couple that with the face damage from the two of them, and you should clear everything.
To be extra safe, if you run, say, Arbiter, Sicia, Artak, and then any two max-hp champs (even Armiger will work), you should be able to get a full clear in like, 15 seconds.
Something else to consider - the answer may very well be "both", especially for Spider. If Sicia is faster than Artak, you go Sicia A3 -> A2 into Artak A2. Assuming someone goes before them, that'll mean 11 HPBurns placed by Sicia and then detonated, another 11 from Artak, and then another 11 from them when they get their turns. Each is 3%, for a total of 99%. Couple that with the face damage from the two of them, and you should clear everything.
To be extra safe, if you run, say, Arbiter, Sicia, Artak, and then any two max-hp champs (even Armiger will work), you should be able to get a full clear in like, 15 seconds.
Would this work with crohnam and artak ? (both aoe hp burn , extender and hp burn activator)
If so which one should go first ? What kind of preset would i need for them to not use the same skill on the same turn or is AI smart enough to use the activator on its own ?
Would this work with crohnam and artak ? (both aoe hp burn , extender and hp burn activator)
If so which one should go first ? What kind of preset would i need for them to not use the same skill on the same turn or is AI smart enough to use the activator on its own ?
Not for Spider, no. The key is that both Sicia and Artak activate *all* HP Burn debuffs. Crohnam unfortunately only activates three of them.
Maybe it could work alongside Djamarsa, though. Since the passive triggers every five active skill uses, maybe the setup could be Crohnam A3 -> A2 into Artak A2 into Djam A2 targeting Crohnam for another activation of the A2, and then another active skill from anyone else activating Crohnam's A2 again.
Would this work with crohnam and artak ? (both aoe hp burn , extender and hp burn activator)
If so which one should go first ? What kind of preset would i need for them to not use the same skill on the same turn or is AI smart enough to use the activator on its own ?
interesting question, forgot to respond your thread:
I don't think you'd want to run them together due to when we're maximizing Artak, he's taking a loooooooot of turns. This means we're going to proc Crohnam's passive a lot and I think we're going to run through the HP burns. If I tried it, I think I'd want to go with Crohnam placing the HP burn first.
You are wrong about books if you have 2 HP burn champs. 75% is enough if you have 2. I clear spider lvl 25 in 23 seconds. The run is consistent, sometimes 27-28 secs. I have Crypt King Graal, no books, lvl 50, and Artak no books at all. Graal does burn,and if he doesn't burn all spiderlings, then Artak finishes the rest with his A3. Graal freezes everyone and Artak activates burns. I have Miscreated Monster for shields and 2 Coldhearts to control turn meter and do 750k each, so the boss never takes a turn