lol, nobody wants to hear that.  They are going to tell you the game would die without the f2p massess... lmao

I'm not f2p. But indeed the game, like any other game, would die without the millions of f2p players.

Why, do you think, do the big spenders spend their money in Raid and not in any of the thousand other games out there, including similar games? Of course that has something to do with the number of players playing Raid. A game with low player base has, unlike Raid, no content creators, no reddit threads with thousands of viewers, no funny meme pics - and in the end no big spenders.

Name any game in the world that makes as much money as Raid without a player base of several millions. According to your arguments, the few thousand Krakens spending several thousand dollars per month and bringing most of the money could make the game running alone. Nice theory, but where is a game like this, 100 million per year with 20k players, in reality?

LOL, you make some valid points. But you'te claim that f2p make no contribution is rediculous.  Most of the best players I know are f2p.  They help me figure out solutions every day.  Many of the whales I know couldn't stay in g5 without advice from their f2p friends.

I call that a contribution.

This is the argument I often see, yes. Typically I see it while someone is arguing the game should be easier for them as a F2P person.

Your F2P Trips, and play at very high levels, how do you feel about your own personal game economy?

But what does it matter? In what area of the game, apart from the Platinum arena and top TAG arena do pay to play impact on Free to Play?

It's not Pay to win either, you don't 'win' in Raid unless you have completed every challenge, if you pay you can progress faster than a FTP - that's all, none of the changes stop a FTP completing the game, all they do is give the spenders an opportunity to complete the game quicker

So a spender can do Dragon 25, Twins, Doom tower etc. quicker than my FTP team - so what? I'm not playing against them, I'm on my own journey which after a couple of years is still going, if I'd spent thousands and thousands I'd have finished it by now and  I guess Raid would be pretty boring, as it is I still accumulate shards, still look for better team/equipment combos and still enjoy playing every day

Could you clarify your question? Are you asking if I feel I add value to Plarium despite being f2p?

Only if my presence in game leads to incremental spending from other players would be my answer. Potentially, I could be a "negative influencer" converting customers into lower spenders or even f2p  :) 

Stadi and Angwil make valid points, I don't put zero value in the entire f2p universe  (only 98% of it lol) but OPs pov is closer to the reality. 

My argument was never that F2P people should all be booted from the game. My comment was in reference to this trend that has developed where a portion of the player base has somehow decided that being F2P
is some sort of "entitlement badge" and that Plarium should cater to them. 

F2P people like Trips (I'm sure there are a TON) do not fall into that category. To be completely honest, I've been on these forums for almost 6 months and until the comment above I never knew Trips was F2P. I don't recall seeing him ever act as if the game should be modified in any way to accommodate the style of play he has chosen.  

Do you really think the loss of 3M players who don't generate any $$ at all for Plarium is going to matter?  

You literally wrote that the loss of millions of f2p players wouldn't matter at all. I wrote, why I think that is wrong.

I don't see the point in distinguishing between FTP, low spend, or whale - we're all a gaming community playing something we enjoy. 

Or should be.

But some people these days have an incredible sense of entitlement - regardless as to whether the person is FTA or a spender - and the internet seems to be the place they go to vent about that regarding any game they play.

I find it all incredibly immature and selfish, and poisonous to any sense of community.