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Looking for help with Myth-Fu clan boss team

Looking for help with Myth-Fu clan boss team

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Jan 4, 2023, 22:5801/04/23
11/27/21
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Looking for help with Myth-Fu clan boss team

I'm trying to set up Myth-Fu for clan boss.

I’m trying to set this up with Jintoro as my DPS. It’s just not doing well, like 15m on NM, 8m on UNM. Can someone check my #’s and advise? Here are my speeds before aura:
Demytha 296 A3 as Priority 1, A2 as Priority 2
Heiress 265 A2 as priority 1
Fu-Shan 189 A2 Disabled
Seeker 187 Open with A1
Jintoro 170 No change 

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Jan 4, 2023, 23:2801/04/23
07/08/19
981

it seems like most of your speeds are slightly above what's recommended. at what point does the tuning get thrown off?

dthorne04Moderator
Jan 5, 2023, 00:1001/05/23
12/30/20
6039

True speeds? Masteries? Gear choices? What's going wrong exactly, where are you dying, how, etc.

Jan 5, 2023, 01:3501/05/23
11/27/21
7

Those speeds are before aura and are all in the range suggested by Hell Hades in the mythbusted article.  I have masteries as suggested by Hell Hades, except for Demytha and Seeker, I needed lore of steel to get the extra speed.  I'll do a manual run tomorrow to see where it's failing.

Jan 5, 2023, 01:3701/05/23
06/25/20
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vball23

Those speeds are before aura and are all in the range suggested by Hell Hades in the mythbusted article.  I have masteries as suggested by Hell Hades, except for Demytha and Seeker, I needed lore of steel to get the extra speed.  I'll do a manual run tomorrow to see where it's failing.

Easiest is to just track the first, like, 6 CB turns. If at any point the actions deviate from what you see on dwj, then you know something is wrong.

Jan 5, 2023, 19:0101/05/23
11/27/21
7

Running it manually following the DWJ tool, it gets off track at the bottom of round 4. I think Demytha skipped ahead of Jintoro and then things went astray after that. Jintoro did get stunned the round before, but Heiress cleaned it immediately.



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Jan 6, 2023, 14:1301/06/23
Jan 6, 2023, 14:21(edited)
11/27/21
7

Ran it again manually, this time Fu-Shan got out of sync and he is the one that took the stun at the end of round 2. So, even though Demytha cleanses it immediately at the beginning of round 3, I think the stunned champion doesn't get their turn meter increases or something at the beginning of the round. My understanding is that the stun can't be resisted, but decreasing CB ACC can get it to fail the stun.

Jan 6, 2023, 15:0001/06/23
Jan 6, 2023, 15:11(edited)
07/08/19
981
vball23

Ran it again manually, this time Fu-Shan got out of sync and he is the one that took the stun at the end of round 2. So, even though Demytha cleanses it immediately at the beginning of round 3, I think the stunned champion doesn't get their turn meter increases or something at the beginning of the round. My understanding is that the stun can't be resisted, but decreasing CB ACC can get it to fail the stun.

decreasing the accuracy of the cb won't cause the stun to fail and being stunned doesn't prevent tm increase so that shouldn't be the source of the problem.

can you post screenshots of your champions? i just plugged them into deadwood's calculator based on the info here and got a completely different order prior to round 4 so clearly there's something vital missing.

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Jan 6, 2023, 17:2201/06/23
11/27/21
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Jan 6, 2023, 17:2401/06/23
11/27/21
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I focused on getting the speeds I needed with the gear/glyphs I had, so the non DPS champs aren't set up to do much damage. I can tweak that later, after I/we figure out why it gets out of whack. 

Jan 6, 2023, 21:1301/06/23
07/08/19
981

so, good news and bad news.

good news is i figured out why your calculator is off. the turn order shown in the photo you posted happens as a result of seeker using his a2 from the get-go, rather than delaying it one turn.

bad news is obviously that since you said you were delaying seeker during your runs, we still don't know why your team isn't working.

im guessing the answer to this is no, but do any of your champs have either the intimidating presence or comanding presence blessing? those might be enough to throw off the tuning.

Jan 6, 2023, 21:3601/06/23
11/27/21
7

Apparently, I did not have Seeker's A2 delayed. I fixed that with better results but still not 50 turn unkillable team. ~9m on UNM this time.

No champs have either of those blessings.

I'll keep digging into it.


dthorne04Moderator
Jan 7, 2023, 00:0701/07/23
12/30/20
6039

I'm seeing the same thing Carpe is, with proper AI settings/order, everything should line up. True speeds are all correct and assuming you have Fu-Shan in the lead, everyone is booked, there's no mastery issues, etc


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Jan 7, 2023, 19:0801/07/23
11/27/21
7

Figured it out. I should have checked all masteries earlier when it was mentioned. Demytha had one that boosted turn meter when a buff/debuff was removed. I redid the masteries and did 70m NM, 55m UNM. Going to try UNM with Geomancer next.

Thanks for all the help!