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Dec 12, 2022, 16:0112/12/22
03/25/19
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10 X complaints

Every time I tried to pull on 10X events, all I got is a disappointment, last one was for Harima, pulled over 10 useless dupes but no Harima, how can you expect me to keep spending?

I am declaring: This whale will become F2P.

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Mod note: edited title to be accurate

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Dec 12, 2022, 16:3212/12/22
06/25/20
6641

You can do the math yourself, if you'd like. Simplifying it to just the number of legos you got (12), your EV for getting the boosted champ is ~10/200 = 5% per pull, so out of 12 pulls your odds of getting the boosted champ were 1 - 0.95^12 = 46%. You lost the coinflip. 

Dec 12, 2022, 16:5012/12/22
06/05/22
433
kramaswamy.kr

You can do the math yourself, if you'd like. Simplifying it to just the number of legos you got (12), your EV for getting the boosted champ is ~10/200 = 5% per pull, so out of 12 pulls your odds of getting the boosted champ were 1 - 0.95^12 = 46%. You lost the coinflip. 

Your math is correct, but besides the point. OP wasn't confused as to the odds AFAICT, it's just that a failure to get what you want drives home viscerally how bad of a deal it really is.

10x is simply not a large enough multiplier. The pool is diluted with dozens of bad champs and past fusions. This is 100 sacreds worth of pulls (on average), so around $2000. Less than 50% chance to get the champ you want at that spending level is ridiculous.

It's absolutely correct to consider 10x events pure bait. I will never pull on a 10x unless it's on top of a 2x or maaaybe if it's void.

Dec 12, 2022, 17:5912/12/22
10/11/20
366

OP, why would they change anything when players like you keep buying shards and pulling during 10X? Once you stop doing that, changes will occur - count on it! 

Dec 12, 2022, 18:3812/12/22
06/20/19
2181
Urlibu FTP

Your math is correct, but besides the point. OP wasn't confused as to the odds AFAICT, it's just that a failure to get what you want drives home viscerally how bad of a deal it really is.

10x is simply not a large enough multiplier. The pool is diluted with dozens of bad champs and past fusions. This is 100 sacreds worth of pulls (on average), so around $2000. Less than 50% chance to get the champ you want at that spending level is ridiculous.

It's absolutely correct to consider 10x events pure bait. I will never pull on a 10x unless it's on top of a 2x or maaaybe if it's void.

Sooo, op knows the odds and blows a wad anyway? Then complains that the stated odds are true and all his pockets are noe lighter?  Hem. Rather odd complaint in my view.

Dec 12, 2022, 19:1012/12/22
06/05/22
433
Angwil

Sooo, op knows the odds and blows a wad anyway? Then complains that the stated odds are true and all his pockets are noe lighter?  Hem. Rather odd complaint in my view.

Well, you hear a lot of complaints of the type "Plarium didn't actually turn on this x10", or "they deliberately drop only the things I don't need from dungeons", etc, from people who don't understand probability theory. This complaint didn't pattern match that at all. Sounded more like someone who's finally fed up with spending and not having their account improved as a result.

Btw, even if 10x is a terrible deal, it can still be the case that it's the best way to spend your money on raid, given that you have decided to spend. And when that best way isn't good enough anymore, you stop spending.

I stopped spending for kind of similar reasons. Shards have always seemed absolutely terrible value to me. The only time I spent on shards was to complete the Dreng fusion. Other than that, I spent on gear, and on silver (yes, those terrible silver offers, before I knew just how bad a deal they are).