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Nov 11, 2022, 18:4411/11/22
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7 Months 400+ Void Shards

still 4 keying UNM with Valk/Altan...

Any chance of 10x Block Damage champion soon... this is absurd luck.  Would be nice to hitting other CB Difficulties someday...  Can Clear all dungeons 20-25, FK at 20, Ice and Dragon 25, Spider 22.  Clear Normal Dt about 50% on Hard DT.  Almost 1 Key NM but never any free keys to hit NM, as it takes me 4 Keys to max chest UNM.  Wont even bother with Iron Twins until I can clear 13+, don't think its worth energy at my lvls 10-12.


My account just seems stuck without unkillable.  Only thing I am progressing in is FW these days.

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Nov 11, 2022, 18:4911/11/22
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harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 18:5411/11/22
02/24/19
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I'll hop back in with a CB team suggestion. I see you have a Toragi built, and he is the absolute best killable CB champ in the game. Are you using him now?

Do you mind sharing your CB champ builds?

Also, I would recommend doing the daily Iron Twins even at 10-12. A single Brimstone from the shop can add 8 million to your CB damage. :)

Nov 11, 2022, 19:0011/11/22
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Nov 11, 2022, 19:0411/11/22
Nov 11, 2022, 19:05(edited)
06/25/20
6641

At first glance, my recommendation would be :

valk (CA)

deacon (leech) - turn off a2

fu-shan (def down, damage, lead) - turn off a2

jarl (debuffblock) - tuned to be slowest on turn 2

toragi (AA, ATK down) - tuned to be slowest on turn 1

Only thing that is giving me pause is whether the stun is going to mess things up on red, but I'm guessing you could put Jarl lead to absorb it? Would be great if there were a way to fit Cronham in, but I don't think it's possible.

Nov 11, 2022, 19:0411/11/22
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I'm at 47.3 mil dmg right now.  Sometimes I swap out with OB with rhazin if it's blue affinity.  Also just tried swapping toragi with fat and boosted my dps.

I had Altan, Doompriest, OB, Valk, deacon 1:1 speed tuned but was not 4 keying and dying around stage 20.  So I have been boosted all their speeds as much as possible and able to 4 key now.  

It's just a shame all effort I've put into my cb team and not pulling better numbers and all shards I've pulled and no demthya for my mythfu build.  If it's going to be such a vital part of game at least make them obtainable to some degree. 

Nov 11, 2022, 19:0511/11/22
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And if I fall asleep before getting 4th key in, no max chest for me =(

Nov 11, 2022, 19:0611/11/22
06/25/20
6641

Just for context - I ran a non-unkillable team for a very long time using Martyr instead of Valk, and had a very easy two-key auto going. You definitey don't need unkillable to do it.

Nov 11, 2022, 19:0611/11/22
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I probably need a miracle or intervention to get my clan boss team performing 

Nov 11, 2022, 19:1111/11/22
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These are my Champs and stats all fully booked with masteries



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harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 19:1811/11/22
02/24/19
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Okay. Thanks for the builds.

It looks like we just need a Valk specific speed tune, no? This doesn't look like any speed tune I've used in takeovers before, at least.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 19:2211/11/22
02/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

At first glance, my recommendation would be :

valk (CA)

deacon (leech) - turn off a2

fu-shan (def down, damage, lead) - turn off a2

jarl (debuffblock) - tuned to be slowest on turn 2

toragi (AA, ATK down) - tuned to be slowest on turn 1

Only thing that is giving me pause is whether the stun is going to mess things up on red, but I'm guessing you could put Jarl lead to absorb it? Would be great if there were a way to fit Cronham in, but I don't think it's possible.

I actually love Altan in a killable comp, personally. Deacon brings our Def Down with him, so we don't need Fu'Shan really. Deacon's A2 is also a stronger smack than his A1, so no need to turn it off at all.

Altan brings an Inc Def for Inc Valk damage, better sustain, and he brings a backup Atk Down to ensure it always stays up.


Nov 11, 2022, 19:2511/11/22
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harleQuinn

I actually love Altan in a killable comp, personally. Deacon brings our Def Down with him, so we don't need Fu'Shan really. Deacon's A2 is also a stronger smack than his A1, so no need to turn it off at all.

Altan brings an Inc Def for Inc Valk damage, better sustain, and he brings a backup Atk Down to ensure it always stays up.


Err - I meant turn off Deacon's A3, lol. My bad :)

As for Altan vs Fu-Shan - definitely room for debate. I've personally never used Fu, but clanmates of mine swear by him, especially in CA teams.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 19:2711/11/22
02/24/19
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kramaswamy.kr

Err - I meant turn off Deacon's A3, lol. My bad :)

As for Altan vs Fu-Shan - definitely room for debate. I've personally never used Fu, but clanmates of mine swear by him, especially in CA teams.

He great in CB teams! I just see more value in increasing longevity with a Def champ that boosts Defense, and can help keep Atk down on, especially when pairing with other Def based damage dealers whose damage benefit from his buffs. :)

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 19:3811/11/22
02/24/19
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So you really do have a great roster for a killable team @xGhostwindx.

I'm honestly interested in a Double Ally Protect/Reflect Damage comp based around Toragi/Snickerdoodle/Geomancer/Valk paired with a cleanser or block debuffs champ. The goal of this comp would be to live forever and reflect CB damage back at him while CAing every hit.

Snickerdoodle (as we call the Hedgehog) is really built for a lot of damage back at CB, increasing Reflected Damage from his allies and bouncing extra of his own damage back.

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Then we toss in Geo for all the reflected damage fun, sit under Valk shields and double Ally Protect, and watch the damage just add up.

That's at least my fun idea for what you could do. I need to look at Double Ally Protect speed tunes to make sure we can get some speed numbers in there that will compensate for Valk's annoying TM boost against affinity bosses. :)

Nov 11, 2022, 19:4011/11/22
Nov 11, 2022, 19:43(edited)
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Sadly im not sure if I am able to tune altans increase defense to go just before valks shield every time.  In my 1:1 rotation i had it staggered so Alt and valk would skip ID and Shield, turn 2 alt would ID and turn 3 Valk would shield and that synergy held until my team wiped around 23.  Had DP going first with cleanse.  

I ended up abandoning this build though as it wasnt working.  wasnt doing enough damage fast enough and wasnt surviving long enough to do more damage.  Person that was helping me blew through 30 mil silver trying to boost all my teams speeds up and we got it to 4 key where its stuck.

My speeds are very off base, im not sure if i can get that synergy with altan and valk 1:1 Affinity Friendly Team, as much speeds on valk are 240+.  

I haven't seen many high speed valk builds out there so I am not sure how that would work with this team setup and valks passives makes speed tuning difficult.

Nov 11, 2022, 19:4511/11/22
Nov 11, 2022, 20:04(edited)
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That sounds like a fun build, but i dont have the books for snickerdoodle and that is an awesome name for him lol

I just booked Scyl, Arbitor and Ukko this last cvc im tapped

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 20:4911/11/22
02/24/19
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xGhostwindx

That sounds like a fun build, but i dont have the books for snickerdoodle and that is an awesome name for him lol

I just booked Scyl, Arbitor and Ukko this last cvc im tapped

Well, it's a marathon, right? :)

There's time to farm some books while you're building the team. I am really keen to see how sweet a full on Shields Up! Reflect squad would be. I don't see why we couldn't figure out some easy 2 key.

harleQuinnModerator
Nov 11, 2022, 20:5211/11/22
02/24/19
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xGhostwindx

Sadly im not sure if I am able to tune altans increase defense to go just before valks shield every time.  In my 1:1 rotation i had it staggered so Alt and valk would skip ID and Shield, turn 2 alt would ID and turn 3 Valk would shield and that synergy held until my team wiped around 23.  Had DP going first with cleanse.  

I ended up abandoning this build though as it wasnt working.  wasnt doing enough damage fast enough and wasnt surviving long enough to do more damage.  Person that was helping me blew through 30 mil silver trying to boost all my teams speeds up and we got it to 4 key where its stuck.

My speeds are very off base, im not sure if i can get that synergy with altan and valk 1:1 Affinity Friendly Team, as much speeds on valk are 240+.  

I haven't seen many high speed valk builds out there so I am not sure how that would work with this team setup and valks passives makes speed tuning difficult.

They certainly do make things difficult. Always the most frustrating takeovers, the ones with Valk, in my opinion. I never have fun tuning them, and the stuff on websites and videos never quite work the way the CCs think, cause she's such a pain.

I will take a look at some options and get back to this tune, Valk is wonky, but I am confident there are a couple out there, and we can figure it out for you.

Nov 12, 2022, 19:4111/12/22
Nov 12, 2022, 19:42(edited)
04/23/22
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I have been rotating same heros   Valk/Altan/Doompriest/Deacon/Toragi/Occult/Fatman and stuck between 17-23 mil per key dependent on procs.  None of my teams seem to be able to reach that 50+ turn meta,  I generally go down between 27-31 turns.  At a certain point he literally starts one shotting my team past lvl 30.

I just ran toragi, fatman, deacon, altan, valk and did 18.9 mil