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Why is Athel ranked so high for clan boss and Nethril isn't?

Why is Athel ranked so high for clan boss and Nethril isn't?

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Jun 13, 2019, 14:3306/13/19
05/16/19
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Why is Athel ranked so high for clan boss and Nethril isn't?

Both hit for 3 attacks each on their A1. Nethril even has a chance to apply poison while he does. Meanwhile, from the rankings I have seen, Athel is ranked higher for the clan boss than he is. Why?


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Jun 13, 2019, 15:3606/13/19
02/15/19
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she applies weaken which makes makes everyone do more damage. Poison is fixed dmg.
Jun 13, 2019, 16:2606/13/19
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Kn1ghtmare said:


she applies weaken which makes makes everyone do more damage. Poison is fixed dmg.

Ok, but I guess where I am still confused is that with % damages like poison, isn't it a set amount of HP % at either 2.5% or 5%?  As such, would weaken still have some kind of impact on that?  From my understanding, the majority of the damage done to the boss is going to be from poison damages and other HP% based damages in the high-end battles, isn't it?


Is it that this ability is more useful once you get the Giant Slayer or Warmaster?  I am guessing that is around the point where hits can be comparable to % based damages?
Jun 13, 2019, 16:3106/13/19
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Additionally, with that being said, after getting to the Warmaster and Giant Slayer point, I would imagine that champions that boost everyone's attack would be great as well, right?

Jun 13, 2019, 16:4906/13/19
Jun 13, 2019, 16:50(edited)
03/20/19
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Nethril and Zavia are the two strongest damage dealers for clanboss. Athel falls off at nightmare where most of your damage will be coming from poisons rather than giantslayer.

Attack boosts don't affect giant slayer btw since it's damage isn't based on your attack stat, defense down does however affect the damage, by a lot. Tayrels defense down raises giantslayer by about 20k damage on nightmare difficulty (from 40k to 60k) weaken adds another 10k.
Jun 13, 2019, 16:5306/13/19
Jun 13, 2019, 16:54(edited)
03/30/19
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Before update 1.6 (or 1.7, don't remember)  weaken debuff also affected poison and HP burn damage. That's why it was so usefull. But it was a bug that was fixed. Now weaken is less usefull. But maybe some players haven't changed their ratings. 

Jun 13, 2019, 16:5706/13/19
Jun 13, 2019, 16:58(edited)
03/30/19
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God said:


Additionally, with that being said, after getting to the Warmaster and Giant Slayer point, I would imagine that champions that boost everyone's attack would be great as well, right?

No,  boosting attack won't help,  because this masteries only base on boss HP. 

You will only boost the basic (non masteries)  damage. 
Jun 13, 2019, 17:1706/13/19
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scorpicora said:


Before update 1.6 (or 1.7, don't remember)  weaken debuff also affected poison and HP burn damage. That's why it was so usefull. But it was a bug that was fixed. Now weaken is less usefull. But maybe some players haven't changed their ratings. 

Oh, good to know.  So then that bumped Athel down on the list then it seems.  Good to know and thanks so much for the info!


So, I guess priority should be poisons until I am regularly getting 10 debuffs on the clan boss (the max allowable), then it's overkill and should prioritize something else other than poison or other debuffs, right?