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Sep 24, 2022, 15:1609/24/22
06/20/19
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Hero’s Path Valuation?

Just curious as to how others value the available reewards, especially in regards to the Eternal Soulstone (and other awakening rewards).

Specifically, to gain the Leggo tome on the left costs 30,750 Hero Coins (65,750 for the stone).  29,150 Hero Coins for the book on the right (64,150 for the stone).  For 59,900 Hero Coins, less than the single stone, you could get both books.

Is the stone worth two books, or I guess I should ask is it worth the second book?

The books give a somewhat defined benefit.  I can choose who gets the book.  I recognie the greater potential of the stone.  But it's still basically a lottery.  There is an 80% chance you will get an epic soul.  If you do get a leggo, you can calculate the chances of it being one you actually have based on your own roster.  If it is one you have, you can again calculate the odds of it being one you really want based on your roster.  

In the same way, you can calculate the odds of it ending up in storage, being applied to a champ you really don't care about, or just being sold.  For 35k Hero Coins, how many would value the stone over getting both leggo books?  No wrong answers, just curious.

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Sep 24, 2022, 16:2509/24/22
06/20/19
2181

Just to add another question;

In the mystic market 1000 eternal soul coins is equivelent to 1 eternal soulstone or 20 eternal soul essence.  Would it change any opinions if 20 ese or 1000 esc were offered?  I think it might.  And is there a reason we weren't offered the coins, giving us the choice of how to spend them?

Sep 24, 2022, 16:5609/24/22
12/19/19
6295

The value of the soulstone resources relative to shards/books increases exponentially from very low in early game to all that matters in end game. 


Sep 24, 2022, 19:2609/24/22
07/08/19
981

i would consider the soulstone a better value than the second tome, but neither one to be worth the resources required to attain them.

though i expect i might feel differently if i weren't sitting on about 60 lego tomes at the moment.

Sep 24, 2022, 22:5909/24/22
02/11/22
533

The eternal soul stones have some value, that's for sure, but the irony is, for most people, its value is much higher when it remains unsummoned. The value of the dream is what this soul stone is, because once it's summoned, and you get crap, it's worthless, and that's 99.99% of the time.

So, to answer your question, given that we know soul stones are mere wishes in the wind, if you were hungry, and i offered you a full meal right now, or, a ticket to win a year's worth of grocery, and you have a 1 in a million chance to win. Starve for a dream? Or fill your stomach?


Sep 25, 2022, 06:4709/25/22
Sep 25, 2022, 06:47(edited)
04/24/22
813

Think the value of soulstone goes hand in hand with how many champs you have .. the more you have the higher you should value them ... Chances of getting one of the champs you own is way higher if you got like 400 different champs ...

Other way around if you got like a handful of legendaries and 2 dozen epics , the value goes down because the chance you get a soulstone for a champ you dont even have is higher.


For me , with 5-6 leggos and a dozen epics i actually use ... the 2 books are more valuable than the stone 

Sep 25, 2022, 09:1809/25/22
03/19/20
413

I don't see how a free to play player can reach 35000 im at 7500 with 22 hours left to go 

Sep 25, 2022, 11:5009/25/22
06/20/19
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Lyryal

Think the value of soulstone goes hand in hand with how many champs you have .. the more you have the higher you should value them ... Chances of getting one of the champs you own is way higher if you got like 400 different champs ...

Other way around if you got like a handful of legendaries and 2 dozen epics , the value goes down because the chance you get a soulstone for a champ you dont even have is higher.


For me , with 5-6 leggos and a dozen epics i actually use ... the 2 books are more valuable than the stone 

I think this kind of speaks to my second question.  If they offered an equivalent amount of soulcoins or soulmessence, it would be much more valuable to me.  Even with 100 leggo champs the chances of a stone dropping a 'target' soul is still rather slim.  But with easence I can save them until I see the soul i want.  Much more like booking than rng.

Sep 25, 2022, 12:0109/25/22
06/20/19
2181
frankieray2102

I don't see how a free to play player can reach 35000 im at 7500 with 22 hours left to go 

I occasionally spend so don't call myself f2p, but it's never more than $10/month and nothing lately.  I'm at around 35k and could easily get everything offered, but will conserve most of my remaining resources.  The difference is the age of the accounts.  Res really can snowball and then you gradually learn when and where to use it or stockpile it.  Just one example, I opened around 60 ancients for 10k+ points, but kept 150 (another 27k points) and didn't touch my voids or sacreds.

As you continue to play, your ability to stockpile and conserve res will improve.

Sep 25, 2022, 12:2409/25/22
03/19/20
413
Angwil

I occasionally spend so don't call myself f2p, but it's never more than $10/month and nothing lately.  I'm at around 35k and could easily get everything offered, but will conserve most of my remaining resources.  The difference is the age of the accounts.  Res really can snowball and then you gradually learn when and where to use it or stockpile it.  Just one example, I opened around 60 ancients for 10k+ points, but kept 150 (another 27k points) and didn't touch my voids or sacreds.

As you continue to play, your ability to stockpile and conserve res will improve.

I understand 

Sep 25, 2022, 14:3109/25/22
12/19/19
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Angwil

I occasionally spend so don't call myself f2p, but it's never more than $10/month and nothing lately.  I'm at around 35k and could easily get everything offered, but will conserve most of my remaining resources.  The difference is the age of the accounts.  Res really can snowball and then you gradually learn when and where to use it or stockpile it.  Just one example, I opened around 60 ancients for 10k+ points, but kept 150 (another 27k points) and didn't touch my voids or sacreds.

As you continue to play, your ability to stockpile and conserve res will improve.

I went for the soulstone as well.  My stockpile of tavern resources is not collecting interest.   So 2000 greens, alot of brews and chickens layers, and a collasal waste of 2 hours making more 5star chickens later i got a useless 6star soul 😆 


harleQuinnModerator
Sep 26, 2022, 01:5909/26/22
02/24/19
7822
Trips

I went for the soulstone as well.  My stockpile of tavern resources is not collecting interest.   So 2000 greens, alot of brews and chickens layers, and a collasal waste of 2 hours making more 5star chickens later i got a useless 6star soul 😆 


6 star Prundar soul not your speed? XD XD

Sep 26, 2022, 16:1809/26/22
12/19/19
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harleQuinn

6 star Prundar soul not your speed? XD XD

Is that what you got? Mine was actually only 5star Demytha (don't even have on this account... 😆).  At least your 6star sells for more coins.


Sep 26, 2022, 16:3809/26/22
06/25/20
6640

I used a handful of sacred to get the soulstones and lego book on the right path.

Sep 26, 2022, 20:5009/26/22
12/19/19
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kramaswamy.kr

I used a handful of sacred to get the soulstones and lego book on the right path.

Any luck with the big stone? Or are you saying u stopped at the lego book?

Sep 26, 2022, 21:0109/26/22
06/25/20
6640
Trips

Any luck with the big stone? Or are you saying u stopped at the lego book?

Yeah, stopped at the lego book. The big stone would have required *way* too much resource investment. Even as-is, I used more sacreds than I was planning - ended up using six in order to get the lego book, was hoping to only need to use three.

Sep 26, 2022, 21:1209/26/22
12/19/19
6295
kramaswamy.kr

Yeah, stopped at the lego book. The big stone would have required *way* too much resource investment. Even as-is, I used more sacreds than I was planning - ended up using six in order to get the lego book, was hoping to only need to use three.

Interesting, I would have assumed u were swimming in tavern resources (chickens and brews).

Only thing I figure u to be lacking is greens if u still are allergic to brutal 12.3 😆 but o guess without greens I might not have brute forced the event either 



Sep 26, 2022, 21:1509/26/22
06/25/20
6640
Trips

Interesting, I would have assumed u were swimming in tavern resources (chickens and brews).

Only thing I figure u to be lacking is greens if u still are allergic to brutal 12.3 😆 but o guess without greens I might not have brute forced the event either 



I'm more lacking in time than in resources. I have about 10k brews, and well over 2000 greens, but I have neither the patience nor the time to sit there for hours clicking those absurd buttons :)

Sep 26, 2022, 21:1709/26/22
12/19/19
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kramaswamy.kr

I'm more lacking in time than in resources. I have about 10k brews, and well over 2000 greens, but I have neither the patience nor the time to sit there for hours clicking those absurd buttons :)

Without the max brew button it would not be possible 

harleQuinnModerator
Sep 27, 2022, 08:5809/27/22
02/24/19
7822
Trips

Is that what you got? Mine was actually only 5star Demytha (don't even have on this account... 😆).  At least your 6star sells for more coins.


No :)

I actually got a 5 star Tatura. Which I am considering not bothering with.., definitely leaving it in the collection for a potential sale when I need coins for even a 2 star I actually use,

Sep 27, 2022, 14:4909/27/22
12/19/19
6295
harleQuinn

No :)

I actually got a 5 star Tatura. Which I am considering not bothering with.., definitely leaving it in the collection for a potential sale when I need coins for even a 2 star I actually use,

Tatura is good