if you want to reach level 20 then you need defense. 

For the concern over plarium pushing coining on you. Actually, there are other ways to upgrade bastions than just rubies. BH Adventures offer cosex on top of the normal reward packs. Also stones will be available in BH tournaments as an additional reward. So no this is no a scam to force you to spend rubies on the game. If you choose to spend its yours or the members of your BH. 

If you actually read this post all the way through a full explaination on bastions is there as well as where stones and cosex comes from.

Icy said:

if you want to reach level 20 then you need defense. 

For the concern over plarium pushing coining on you. Actually, there are other ways to upgrade bastions than just rubies. BH Adventures offer cosex on top of the normal reward packs. Also stones will be available in BH tournaments as an additional reward. So no this is no a scam to force you to spend rubies on the game. If you choose to spend its yours or the members of your BH. 

If you actually read this post all the way through a full explaination on bastions is there as well as where stones and cosex comes from.

http://plarium.com/forum/en/pirates-tides-of-fortune/news-and-announcements/topics/scurvy-new-feature--brotherhood-bastions-/1/#123548/

Icy are you talking as a player or as a moderator and part of plarium group.

even presidios can be upgraded with rubies but with normal resources too, but this bastion is mainly rubies if you want to get away from the danger of being downgraded.

also even if you can get stones and codexes from Bh challenges..it's not gona be as faster as the usual way..because after level 5 and until you reach level 20 ..you will be a target for other Bh.

Bh with no presidios have advantage here as they have big defense then the rest..

you get them when you do brotherhood adventures and other quest

as we are new to this and learning too, we still have yet to fully understand

but as off!!! not everything you need rubies, but rubies come to an advantage 

when getting it done "faster" rather than playing the game and waiting it out

Well Another Money grabber what freakin surprise.

Maybe one of the features you could modify with Presidio's is a "Controlled View".

By this, I mean just as in Pardons, you can turn them off and on.

Controlled View,  would allow the Leader to Turn off and on who can actually view the contents of a Presidio. This would allow them to assign rank, but not necessarily give them access to view the Presidio contents or numbers other than their own.

Again something more to grab money than something that would be a big help to allievate the spying somewhat.

But this will probably go by the wayside or misdone. Just like Global/Regional chat is neither.

I was saying that as a player/BH leader. Lets say for a moment you don't want to spend rubies on upgrading your bastion. Honestly the best way to go about it, knowing there's a cost is to not build it until you have banked enough stones and codexes to be able to do upgrades without the need for rubies. 

i agree there, and i believe these suggestions been given to the devs to work with, and they do listen to us, ive seen a few sugestion added to the game already, so in hope soon precids awareness of what can be seen what can be taken out and more control to the bh leader will be added 

StarLight said:

That's the Point Icy, you should be able to control just what they can see in a Presidio but control what they can see.They don't need to see what's in a Presidio necessarily, just be able to do the normal interactins with it. If you can do it for Pardons, then it's not that big a programming feat to put another button there just like you have for Pardons.

We will do the same restrictions for Bastions, don't worry.

you get them when you do brotherhood adventures and other quest

as we are new to this and learning too, we still have yet to fully understand

but as off!!! not everything you need rubies, but rubies come to an advantage 

when getting it done "faster" rather than playing the game and waiting it out

I have a question on buying stones for the Bastion?

- The "+" sign next to the Stones is not available for all members of the Brotherhood.

Would someone explain what criteria is used to buy stones?

rbrian said:

I have a question on buying stones for the Bastion?

- The "+" sign next to the Stones is not available for all members of the Brotherhood.

Would someone explain what criteria is used to buy stones?

right now i believe you can't buy them, soon they will be added in tournaments and or quest

they didn't add everything at once, guessing they like to keep us on our toes lol 

Blasphemy said:

rbrian said:

I have a question on buying stones for the Bastion?

- The "+" sign next to the Stones is not available for all members of the Brotherhood.

Would someone explain what criteria is used to buy stones?

right now i believe you can't buy them, soon they will be added in tournaments and or quest

they didn't add everything at once, guessing they like to keep us on our toes lol 

I was able to purchase a quantity last evening, but not now; hence my question.  I do hope they will be added in tournaments as you have indicated..  I know that the codexes are presently available via daily events for the brotherhood.

I was able to purchase a quantity last evening, but not now; hence my question.  I do hope they will be added in tournaments as you have indicated..  I know that the codexes are presently available via daily events for the brotherhood.

Thanks

If the plus button does not work you can simply click upgrade bastion, and pay for it.

Are you moderators employees of plarium? Or do you just get free rubies and stuff, cause you are not thinking clearly. This is in fact another ruby processor. Why would Plarium do anything that doesn't gain them rubles, or the coin of the realm in Israel? Face it ... it is a ruby sucking construct. For crying out loud Plarium can't even fix the speed and capacity of daggers permanently let alone do this right. And the point of instituting other parts of this fiasco? They haven't fixed all the other problems they are presented yet.

osw7552 said:

Are you moderators employees of plarium? Or do you just get free rubies and stuff, cause you are not thinking clearly. This is in fact another ruby processor. Why would Plarium do anything that doesn't gain them rubles, or the coin of the realm in Israel? Face it ... it is a ruby sucking construct. For crying out loud Plarium can't even fix the speed and capacity of daggers permanently let alone do this right. And the point of instituting other parts of this fiasco? They haven't fixed all the other problems they are presented yet.

nuff said

Rubies can only speed up the development of your Bastion. But you can upgrade it without using them. There will be special Tournaments which allow your Brotherhood to get free Resources to upgrade your Bastion. 

osw7552 said:

Are you moderators employees of plarium? Or do you just get free rubies and stuff, cause you are not thinking clearly. This is in fact another ruby processor. Why would Plarium do anything that doesn't gain them rubles, or the coin of the realm in Israel? Face it ... it is a ruby sucking construct. For crying out loud Plarium can't even fix the speed and capacity of daggers permanently let alone do this right. And the point of instituting other parts of this fiasco? They haven't fixed all the other problems they are presented yet.

nuff said

Everything among plarium games is a choice in using rubies a choice to use them or not.

You can wait it out and wait for the stone blocks in adventures and quest or the faster way

and having you BH help and level it up.......

My being a Moderator has nothing to do with my point of view i just see things in both perspectives 

I understand that these bastions are harder for the none coiner players

but again, time will help out and soon you will get these stones freely

just because something was added to the game that has the option in advancing using rubies does not mean you have to go that method

Well...Well...Well......

Bravo Bravo Bravo PLARIUM.  As I watched the slaughter of newly created Bastions, HOW MUCH LOUDER CAN YOU SHOUT:

"IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY THEN WE DON't WANT YOU TO PLAY."

So all the new small brotherhoods who have built a Bastion have witnessed them slaughtered by the coiners. Like little school boys running around trying to get a badge for their belt. I stopped counting at 30.

Just curious exactly what is considered "Downgrade Protection" for a Bastion that has been ht and downgraded? Seems to me that even with the so called Downgrade protection it can continue to be hit until every last units is gone?

Oh I get it, just protection against being downgraded another level, until tomorrow when it gets hit again but nothing else......

Frank Connett said:

Well...Well...Well......

Bravo Bravo Bravo PLARIUM.  As I watched the slaughter of newly created Bastions, HOW MUCH LOUDER CAN YOU SHOUT:

"IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY THEN WE DON't WANT YOU TO PLAY."

So all the new small brotherhoods who have built a Bastion have witnessed them slaughtered by the coiners. Like little school boys running around trying to get a badge for their belt. I stopped counting at 30.

And no, MODERATORS, With all the rubies and resources that Plarium is paying you, hard to believe that any of you can be totally honest about anything.

What i find amusing is that you target the moderators here, most our work is volunteer, I'm not sure just what you think we get from plarium, that is worthy the drama we get daily by other players, when we are here to balance what goes on with plarium and the daily players here in the forums and the game....

Mostly i speak of is not what plarium would want me to say, but what i believe should be said,

These smaller Bh's know that the bastions have to be defended like a precid to hold it from being downgraded

and if they were lost then my guess they were smart and didn't defend it well enough, consequences of owning them

Now my guess the 30 something Bastions you seen fall where brotherhoods that had less than 30 something members in them

mostly low levels......

Yeah!!!!! i know this, my bh took like 12 of these, do i feel ashamed of this? h3ll no!!!!!!!

we are playing a combat game, we are pirates time to play like one......