This is FORCEFULL, I have stayed out of these forums for a long time because the replies from Plarium MODS/Staff have just made me more annoyed then i was in the first place, i expect this time to be no different but I am hanging from a thread whether to quit this game cold turkey like many of the games original most active players have already.

We have just completed our 250km territory achievement and moving forward all that is left for the clan is Raiding & Dragon Slayers; which does not really make me excited for the future of Nords.

When you posted the tournament schedule originally I was excited, "this is new, maybe plariums finally putting in some effort for the money they've taken".. I was right I guess, you put in some work to come up with a new way to scam your players who have gotten wise to your bs so now you use the clan and the image of multiple stacking tourneys as a motivator. I know you have seen it in your #s, players are getting bored and annoyed with your bs, they reduce their play they stop participating in tournaments stop doing bgs etc. These tournaments do not constitute new content that has been requested over and over again, these tournaments are just a split up version of your original tournaments instead just more costly.. Another money grab yet again that most players cannot compete in and confuses them into trying where they just lose days, weeks and even months of their troops that take forever to build without emeralds.

You know the Battlegrounds are rigged to steal more troops the higher level you go and those who made the mistake of going to high are just stuck with it you do not want to help anyone out and reduce their levels you are happy when a player is stuck in high levels losing more everytime he/she tries. Your Emerald paid interns get no support or effort in form of a real reply except your scripted "you will eventually get your payout just keep paying..oops i mean playing.." this is why i stay out of this forum cause the MODS seem to be at the mercy of the almighty Bjorn, who is infact a scrooge trying to build a casino flaunting as a team multiplayer game.. has anyone from Plarium actually played their own game? Right now in 3 days of doing my battlegrounds I am down about 10k in elfs/dragons hitting my higher lvl 180s with no payout im left with lvl 114 as highest, assuming I get my maximum jackpot payout it will take another 2k units to get 6k or so back then i will be down about 6-8k in elves/dragons in all of a 3 day span.. This is not news to me or anyone else playing the high level bgs, I kept track in Excel that last 15day EXP tournament even with the 100k emerald reward I had lost over 10mln in power.. 

You know by the statistics and records that I have stayed away from the battlegrounds until that recent tournament where i said I was done and will not do them again. Then you come out with this Clan Tournament and I feel like if I dont do them I am letting down the clan which was of course your intention being the immoral company you have proven to be over and over again..

I would like a better response then "keep playing", maybe an actual tutorial or explanation of how the bgs work exactly. I am near the edge and ready to do something drastic like quit cold turkey and never look back.. you may say in your scrooge voice "bah humbug who cares about 1 player",, not to big myself up or anything but if you lose me as a player you will likely lose alot of activity to follow.. I've been doing my best working very hard on your behalf to keep people active and interested in this game.. many of the oldest and biggest players in the game have left already because they were sick of every update being about you making more money, I know the cost of hosting servers and dont give me bs about maintenance costs because there is no real maintenance going on.. your business model is clear, you want to make this game into a casino game like those new slot machine games people are addicted to forgetting they are even playing a slot machine.. I came here to play a game in my down time, a game I can play with a common team goal, altho money isn't a concern so much as the realization that i've been scammed and continue to be scammed, that your company has put more money into the research and implementation of gambling psychology then they have actually put effort into the average players entertainment.

I'm done, read it or not I dont give a fk anymore I said it and now I'm done, when and if I do quit the game I will be quitting with all my troops in my catacombs, I refuse to kill another troop which in turn will just require the defender to raid, build, raid build raid build or pull out their wallet, I wont be part of this scam anymore I want to see real content, I want to see a Battlegrounds guide/walkthrough.

Also the lag is back and worse then ever, so while I'm playing your rigged casino not only am I getting my money stolen from me but I am also wasting hours of my life waiting for your game to respond.. its not my cache so give it up.. my time & money is far better spent elsewhere the only thing that has kept me tethered to this game is the clan, and your new tournament imo has crossed the line, you have intentionally created this tournament to get people to spend money on "the team" they wouldnt have otherwise for their Solo. The truth is that majority of the clans in the game have very little chatting going on most days, the game has become more work then fun, average players cant participate in many tournaments they just lose their troops that take them forever to raid,build,raid,build,raid,build, but i guess thats purposeful, make it cheaper to buy troops then to actually work for them is your goal right..

If i wasnt clear in my rant, King Bjorn is not awesome he is simply a cartoon surrogate for whoever the real bossman is (i really hope you do read your forums even if you dont reply).. I see him more of a scrooge whose goal is just to scam everyone into spending as much money with as little expense so he gets rich with not a bit of care for anyones personal enjoyment. I am sorry to be so blunt but can someone name a single positive change to this game that has not directly benefited plarium?

tumps up and +1000 - right on the spot.

I are only hanging around to see those big changes that was put in to the dezembro air in 2015...lol

turn out that better scroll in blodpack list was it - and hey dude all blodpackts are done so give it a f

I am here only for the clan but are trying actively to make our boss - Ceb DST to take clan to other game because the P fan boy are lost in the woods and P dose not have anything to lift game back to life - so I think they will wait for new inflow of players and will not miss you, me or any other high lv player that just have come to the end of game.

P have been given many advises over time and have done what, make up your exel paper and talk to other clan leaders.

answer for lv80+ players can only be - out and on to next better game.

ps. read fast before the F fan boy kick my post for the f letter....lol

Well Said Forcefull, I have said time and time again to my clan members that this is a money making game for the owners and it is unfair on those who are playing this game and have enjoyed the game previously to go through what we are going through. I played this game to take the stress of a very hectic job and school life away, but it seems that this game just stresses me out after while.

The constant flaws in this game is RIDICULOUS.

I  refuse to go past my level 88 in BGs and stick to doing the lower level BGs when they refresh as I don't lose as much troops. 

Plarium you need to stop being hungry for money and find a new strategy to this game quick as eventually you will lose out. It only takes some serious really bad comments on your forums from your well seasoned players to discourage others to stop playing this game. 

It would be lovely to hear from you grumpy old money grabbers as to where you would like to carry this game. 

There needs to be a change and a rewards for when you have upgraded everything, there must be something to look forward to, there must be a way to further upgrade you keep.

Plarium, as Forcefull has said, you guys need to sit and play your very own game in order to see what your players have to go through. Especially when there are players on here that CAN NOT afford to be spending money on the game.

It is time that you get your act together Plarium.

Princess Kaya

Hi, Guys. Unfortunately, we are unable to explain you how the BGs work. It's a part of our game mechanics which has always been a mystery. And our players need to discover it on their own. 

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Hi, Guys. Unfortunately, we are unable to explain you how the BGs work. It's a part of our game mechanics which has always been a mystery. And our players need to discover it on their own. 

If you have any ideas how to improve our game, you can share them in Suggestions.

like i said, waste of time what is the point of this forum? ignored most of my post and focused on the only thing you can really answer safely,, and when you say "game mechanics" you actually mean slot mechanics cause thats what it is, its a slot machine system except you are not regulated like a casino.. as a community manager who claims to help players have you a Nords account and play the game yourself? why do you manage this community? is it a hobby or are you paid? 

I infact have over 50million battleground points ranked 21st all time I think I've played the game long enough to make a valid opinion here, the 3rd ranked all time in bgs with over 150million in battleground points only has 2 legendary dragon items.. that right there just shows how big of a racket this game really is like a slot machine, you've continued over and over again month after month to rig the system. you've changed things to confuse people purposefully to increase difficulties, losses all because you wanted to take advantage of the larger spenders. In turn you have lost and made enemies with alot of real players who will boycott and never recommend or play another plarium or even similar game, new players have very little chance in the game.. without the volume of players then your focus turns on just taking money from all the gamblers youve managed to addict. your "users registered" is largely inflated by all the alts people create in order to get their %10 resource bonus.

If you have any useful input id be happy to hear it, cause like i said before the only thing keeping me tethered to this game is the clan, and as much as I like my clan and we have the best players in the game; for the average person who doesnt want to spend money the only real content in this game is raid, battlegrounds, build, raid, battlegrounds, build, raid, battlegrounds, build. I actually made a mistake realizing now there was 1 thing you did modify in the game that i dont see a benefit really for you as a company; 30 raids.. but the same month if i recall you made troop build times longer. The battlegrounds continue to get tweaked, less equipment drops, in my entire 50million battleground point history ive gotten 1 legendary key, 1... I've also lost atleast 40+million in power in my bg history where the results get worse and worse every update, you got greedy you've made a very large gap between players who actually want to play the game for fun and those who want to dominate and win using their wallet. 

Your leadership is absolutely horrible & im disgusted by the decisions your team continue to make in which ruin the game for the majority leading to a decline in participation of current players, harder for newer players..  but its possible an increase in revenue from the people who do spend and are addicted to your obvious casino so the idea in your head is i guess its in your interest to keep milking the cash spenders making a higher $ to player ratio and less maintenance or customer service i guess. 

In the end it is very clear you could care less about anyones entertainment here and i'm quite sure you would and should get shut down possibly even sued if you hosted your company in America.

I agree to all JLgee (Forcefull) and others mentioned above. 

Also at the moment it feels more like this game is a moneypit to support Plariums other games.

There are No Real game improvements implemented and when there is they don't even work the way they should.
 (look at the way Rune's are still not working like promised as a little example)
Or are only based to make Plarium more money.

Also its common knowledge that people get screwed by the "special packages roulation system" and have to pay more and more for less as soon as they start to buy them. Sugestions for improvement on that does not even get answered in the forum by Plarium !!
They also deny that there is a system that keeps track of peoples payment history and only raises prices and lowers rewards. 

All improvements that are beeing mentioned that should happen for over years by members and that only get ignored or get a "we will put that in future updates" message that is getting a bit like an antique chuckoo clock that keeps repeating .

And why the heck would we want to write suggestions to improve an Portal Page??
When Plarium does not even listen to suggestions or implement suggestions that people have been saying to fix for over a year? 

Were are all the Promissed fixes and don't say they are so difficult to implement.. how hard can it be to place a scrollbar in a field of items?
How hard can it be to place some better rewards?
How hard can it be to make a good game Guide ?
(and that are only a few easy fixes, i could write much more but think i will run out of space in this text field)

How hard can it be to listen to people that play the game ? 

Heck you are making more money with this game than the costs of your providers.. so get some decent script writers!

Start fixing the game, the rewards and gameplay !!

Rick41

Btw.. if you were hosting this game in Holland.. you would have been shut down already.

I am always glad to pass our players' suggestions to our developers. However, they take the ideas which may drastically change the game dynamics and mechanics with all due care. From the very beginning of the game, our team has considered the specifics of interactions, their dynamics and conditions.

That's why some of the ideas which are aimed to alter the whole way of the gameplay are viewed in several stages, taking into account the analytics and researches from different departments. 

With each update we add some improvements to the game, including the ones suggested by players. Check the list of implemented Suggestions here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/nords-heroes-of-the-north-browser/suggestions/topics/implemented-suggestions-6/. It's quite big. 

Thanks, #2 is removed.

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

I am always glad to pass our players' suggestions to our developers. However, they take the ideas which may drastically change the game dynamics and mechanics with all due care. From the very beginning of the game, our team has considered the specifics of interactions, their dynamics and conditions.

That's why some of the ideas which are aimed to alter the whole way of the gameplay are viewed in several stages, taking into account the analytics and researches from different departments. 

With each update we add some improvements to the game, including the ones suggested by players. Check the list of implemented Suggestions here: http://plarium.com/forum/en/nords-heroes-of-the-north-browser/suggestions/topics/implemented-suggestions-6/. It's quite big. 

We love the game as it is now. We do improve it, but we don't make any drastic changes to it. 

hahaha I like how you are saying "We love the game as it is now" who the  " we" is referring to? you? Plarium ? who? cause it is not referring to your customers : us , the players .. that should be loving the game, because just like every other player in this game we had enough of YOU , the people "improving" this game, that are just killing it after every "update" 

And I do believe just like Rick said that you are just taking OUR money to develop other Plarium games, cause if you really think your developpers are doing anything to "improve" this game you are mistaken.

So this is not really a "suggestion" , personally this is an ultimatum ... this game is no fun anymore ... I DO NOT LOVE THE GAME AS IT IS NOW .. 

Queen Jazy

hahaha I like how you are saying "We love the game as it is now" who the  " we" is referring to? you? Plarium ? who? cause it is not referring to your customers : us , the players .. that should be loving the game, because just like every other player in this game we had enough of YOU , the people "improving" this game, that are just killing it after every "update" 

And I do believe just like Rick said that you are just taking OUR money to develop other Plarium games, cause if you really think your developpers are doing anything to "improve" this game you are mistaken.

So this is not really a "suggestion" , personally this is an ultimatum ... this game is no fun anymore ... I DO NOT LOVE THE GAME AS IT IS NOW .. 

Queen Jazy

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Queen J said:

hahaha I like how you are saying "We love the game as it is now" who the  " we" is referring to? you? Plarium ? who? cause it is not referring to your customers : us , the players .. that should be loving the game, because just like every other player in this game we had enough of YOU , the people "improving" this game, that are just killing it after every "update" 

And I do believe just like Rick said that you are just taking OUR money to develop other Plarium games, cause if you really think your developpers are doing anything to "improve" this game you are mistaken.

So this is not really a "suggestion" , personally this is an ultimatum ... this game is no fun anymore ... I DO NOT LOVE THE GAME AS IT IS NOW .. 

Queen Jazy

Yes, we = Plarium team. 

I think you should kick out all players, and start playing your own game that is so perfect and just the way You Plaruim team likes it.

We (the not plaruim team) the players of this game DONT like it any more and when nothing good wil change, people will quit.
you already heard it from one of the leaders of the biggest clan on this game and its like Rick and Queen J already said..

Its time to change things Plarium team

I think you should kick out all players, and start playing your own game that is so perfect and just the way You Plaruim team likes it.

We (the not plaruim team) the players of this game DONT like it any more and when nothing good wil change, people will quit.
you already heard it from one of the leaders of the biggest clan on this game and its like Rick and Queen J already said..

Its time to change things Plarium team

Alyona Kolomiitseva said:

Racerdude said:

I think you should kick out all players, and start playing your own game that is so perfect and just the way You Plaruim team likes it.

We (the not plaruim team) the players of this game DONT like it any more and when nothing good wil change, people will quit.
you already heard it from one of the leaders of the biggest clan on this game and its like Rick and Queen J already said..

Its time to change things Plarium team

Unfortunately, it's impossible to please everyone. We do understand that players want things to be changed, and as I said we will continue working on your ideas, and we will improve the game. But we are not planning any drastic changes.

I just deleted my post, because its no use talking .. and my questions don't get answers any way.
you said so yourself:  " we are not planning any drastic changes".
So what on earth is there left to talk or discuss about?

Seeing it from your Plarium point of view: Nothing is going to ever change beside the money grabbing.

Plarium just refuses to even answer or lisnen.
And only talks around things the should answer leaving only messages that don't even cover things that were said or asked.
As the say themselves "They (the plarium team)  like the game as it is"

Its just one BIG fact ;

This game is only a Pile of rubbish that in the Eyes of Plarium: should not cost any attention nor the money or time to change things,
But only to make money for the other game's plarium supports