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new matchmaking brings back the problems of the previous attempt

new matchmaking brings back the problems of the previous attempt

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Nov 9, 2024, 15:4511/09/24
01/30/24
56

new matchmaking brings back the problems of the previous attempt

The last attempt at matchmaking updates in August pitted people against much more powerful opponents. The new matchmaking logic released a few days ago started with what I assume was some calibration because my opponents were initially underpowered (an experience shared by others based on the game chat rooms) and then reasonably matched opponents.

Since then, however, it has reached the same state as the August update. My 2300 sp hangar, filled with 3-star mechs, has begun facing human hangars and bots with maxed out (or near maxed out) mechs, weapons and pilots. I see no logic for such matchups.

Note: There are other recent forum posts discussing this problem, but they have veered off topic into personal attacks, which is why I'm creating a new post. Please, folks, let's keep the discussion civil. Thanks!

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Nov 9, 2024, 23:0611/09/24
09/26/22
153

It's turned into the same dumpster fire as before as the matchmaking is based on what heat level you're at, irregardless of what sp you are. Outcomes are now really based on how lucky or unlucky you are with the matchups. 

I have no clue why they continue to use some version based on the flawed power structure of the mechs/weapons that's easily manipulated instead of just creating a proven matchmaking rating system based on skill that other games use...

Nov 11, 2024, 15:5911/11/24
Nov 11, 2024, 16:00(edited)
01/30/24
56

"Outcomes are now really based on how lucky or unlucky you are with the matchups" 

Agreed, and it's actually worse than that because (player matchups aside) the bots become overpowered, too.

Nov 11, 2024, 16:3311/11/24
01/17/21
113

I'm probably wrong about this but to me this "test" feels more like we are training a new AI Bot system. Just what it feels like to me though, doesn't feel like a matchmaking/balance test. Again, just my opinion on how this test feels.

Nov 11, 2024, 16:3711/11/24
01/30/24
56

That's possible. In my case though it's both humans and bots.. both became severly overpowered (compared to my hangar) after a couple of tournament heats.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Nov 12, 2024, 12:3111/12/24
02/10/23
2149

Hello guys! Thanks a lot for your feedback on the test; all the info is crucial to us. Be sure that all the comments will be considered.

Nov 16, 2024, 05:5611/16/24
09/28/22
4

It is irritating  to spend time and effort to try and win A coins from Arena if you encounter players on the scoreboard with ten to 20 times more score than yours and best of all you did not even play against them in Arena or seen them Anywhereon other batle field's 

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This is ridiculous and I demand a fair amount of A coins since I have encountered this issue far too many times after putting in hours of effort just to find this crap everytime. It seems that if you complain the game staff punish you for speaking out by making it even worse. 

Nov 16, 2024, 09:1911/16/24
Nov 19, 2024, 00:03(edited)
05/27/24
10
Swiftblade

It is irritating  to spend time and effort to try and win A coins from Arena if you encounter players on the scoreboard with ten to 20 times more score than yours and best of all you did not even play against them in Arena or seen them Anywhereon other batle field's 

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This is ridiculous and I demand a fair amount of A coins since I have encountered this issue far too many times after putting in hours of effort just to find this crap everytime. It seems that if you complain the game staff punish you for speaking out by making it even worse. 


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Day 3 on tourni ended with three Peeps at +30k. SC I took was half way through the game day. Ignoring that they are running whale-hangers (good for them ect).. 1. why am I grouped in this table 2. Simply put there is not point trying to compete 3. this is new for me to see these huge scores hence the SC.

Something has change with the way Players are grouped into Tournament tables? Will obviously continue to be active in tourniments to see if this is a anomoly; day 4 & 5 results indicating it is not. 

Long and short - if this is how it is 2be, going forward it would seem there will be very little reason to participating in this activity for rewards.

KR & good hunting o7

S1LENCEModerator
Nov 16, 2024, 13:1511/16/24
02/05/20
83
Nijaat


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Day 3 on tourni ended with three Peeps at +30k. SC I took was half way through the game day. Ignoring that they are running whale-hangers (good for them ect).. 1. why am I grouped in this table 2. Simply put there is not point trying to compete 3. this is new for me to see these huge scores hence the SC.

Something has change with the way Players are grouped into Tournament tables? Will obviously continue to be active in tourniments to see if this is a anomoly; day 4 & 5 results indicating it is not. 

Long and short - if this is how it is 2be, going forward it would seem there will be very little reason to participating in this activity for rewards.

KR & good hunting o7

You're put in tournament brackets based on the time when you entered the bracket. Say you played the first match in Master's bracket at 1 PM your time. The game puts you into a bracket with 19 other people from around the world who started their respective Master bracket around the same time. That's how tournament bracket making has always been; SP or XP level is not taken into account while making brackets. 

Nov 18, 2024, 06:3311/18/24
Nov 19, 2024, 00:01(edited)
05/27/24
10

Alrighty, I know how its done having encountered four different people doing it yesterday; same build 1 running with no pilot.. 


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1.  3k + score per round

2.  6 star piolot, wep, mech with implants, mods

3  Gained massive score with ease thus taking lead slot in tourni table (getting all the a-coin (this was on master so done just for the 200acoin prize ect); so fast that they are killing peeps as they spawn in the spawn locations.

4. I have no 6star pilot, mech weps, indeed I run with no legi' weps - should not be in rounds with these players

So again good for these people with there mech rigs, they have put effort and money into gaining their builds. That said They should not be able to 'game' with persons significantly lower than themselves as it is clearly not fun. I don't how it's done, I found that if I remove my pilots, drop my mods, place lower mechs into hanger I still get the same strength of mechs in the rounds and lose round or gain few points as I dont have the hanger to compete.

Action / review is needed.. This is a thing that players are doing and it feels unfair.

Kind regards and good hunting/


Any thoughts on this modderator's?


Nov 19, 2024, 00:1011/19/24
Nov 19, 2024, 01:01(edited)
05/27/24
10

Feedback would be great even if it's only directional or acknowledgement that Dev's are working on a way to lock peeps out of this type of 'gaming the system'?

Or, is the way of it /shudders

Bump 

Nov 19, 2024, 18:3311/19/24
09/19/18
74

dude always check their hangar, they always have a low hangar and win tournaments and free coins. they use the low hangar system, which plarium continues to allow.. there will never be a fair game that makes you want to play, when you see these things. check the top of the leaderboard. all low hangar. as long as it is like this it will remain a game between bad and mediocre.

Nov 26, 2024, 14:5811/26/24
09/19/18
74

Thank you so much for your feedback on the test; all information is crucial for us. Please be sure that all comments will be taken into consideration.

ENOUGH and stop making fun of us, can't you see that it's getting worse, are you trying to keep the boat afloat, when instead it's already sunk??

but do me a favor...

Nov 27, 2024, 18:1511/27/24
09/19/18
74

great match, thank goodness the work is in progress.. ..but give me a break, the usual story, low hangar wins.. and they don't spend. what a rubbish game.

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Nov 28, 2024, 19:3311/28/24
10/29/22
7

Why am I fighting this guy? There is nothing in my entire inventory that has a prayer of making a dent in this guy.

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Nov 28, 2024, 19:3511/28/24
10/29/22
7


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Nov 28, 2024, 23:0111/28/24
Nov 28, 2024, 23:02(edited)
11/13/24
6
Nijaat

Feedback would be great even if it's only directional or acknowledgement that Dev's are working on a way to lock peeps out of this type of 'gaming the system'?

Or, is the way of it /shudders

Bump 

Let me know if you hear anything because based on what I have experienced so far playing this game, the devs seem to think that flooding the market with these cheesy overpowered mechs and weapons that no one asked for is the best way to "balance" this broken joke of an algorithim" they're currently using.

Perhaps if we users all wish together hard enough, the devs will roll out an even MORE awesomer mech that lets you get up and get a sandwich while it does all the killing for you! 

And they can give it a "super tough" name like "Death Puncher" or "Earth Digester" and they can charge people $35 but say it's marked down from $50 to get gullible people to pay for it! 😃

But for now I wait... 

Nov 29, 2024, 16:5511/29/24
10/29/22
7

I'm flattered that plarium thinks so highly of my skills that they think I can take on these kinds of opponents, but again..... nothing i posses is capable of killing anything they put in battle. 

Come on moderators, explain this to me so it makes sense!!

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Nov 30, 2024, 23:2111/30/24
09/17/21
283

Ye my experience hasn't been great

The MM normally isn't very good normally, especially when it's abused 

Nov 30, 2024, 23:2311/30/24
09/17/21
283
starkillerJK

Why am I fighting this guy? There is nothing in my entire inventory that has a prayer of making a dent in this guy.

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Well that person is 'tanking', which is an entirely different problem of its own - You're not supposed to be fighting them 

Dec 5, 2024, 08:3412/05/24
Dec 5, 2024, 08:36(edited)
05/27/24
10
BlueJayBeard

Let me know if you hear anything because based on what I have experienced so far playing this game, the devs seem to think that flooding the market with these cheesy overpowered mechs and weapons that no one asked for is the best way to "balance" this broken joke of an algorithim" they're currently using.

Perhaps if we users all wish together hard enough, the devs will roll out an even MORE awesomer mech that lets you get up and get a sandwich while it does all the killing for you! 

And they can give it a "super tough" name like "Death Puncher" or "Earth Digester" and they can charge people $35 but say it's marked down from $50 to get gullible people to pay for it! 😃

But for now I wait... 

No response or improvement.

I note that some of the bots (few) are not max star mechs, but their load-outs like; zeph 16 energy with 10/6E 5 & 6 star howlers or revoker or  16E of the same, tanks with either 10/6 or 16E Tetra or overdrivers. And in most cases its with 6 star pilots. (so like £500-600 hangers. The only time I see non-legendary bot-hangers is when I see the bots on my teams which are typically loaded with fussion cannons /rolls eyes and ofc they seem not to have the aim assist, super fast rotation, target lock and sucide into enemy fire or move in circles. 

Again, I get its a ploy for P' to market the new epic OP (relative) weapons for RL cash combined with stacking against the player so that they spend more to try and improve (IMO seems no point = even more frustration). But its just not fun.

And then there is the obvous issue of should you manage to string 3 match wins in a row you will get fourth onwards of full 6stars. 

This week and last week tourni ballance (ha) is/was a joke; the prevous 5v5 tourni was more ballanced teams; but still the frequency of new legi' wep's on bots makes it not fun or ballanced.

As for MM mismatching verse player hangers = no improvements notice by me, still getting the whale-love.


Good hunting o7