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Sep 2, 2023, 21:4309/02/23
04/08/23
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Beginning gear hub

Why is the game bot I ALWAYS get paired with TRASH but the game bots we play aginst always aces? Why? Is that supose to be fun? Getting knocked out of rewards by bots and not real people when my teammates are trash bots is not fun. That's not a fun game. Whoever told the programmers "hey let's turn the enemy bots up to 12, it'l be fun for the players that pay my bills," grossly mislead them. I don't understand why programmers can't find the middle between game advantage cheat and real person players and leave it alone. ?? I assume their working on optimization as we speak, right??? 

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Sep 3, 2023, 00:1909/03/23
12/25/22
2

I so agre 

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Sep 4, 2023, 11:3109/04/23
02/10/23
2031

Hello! We are actively working on both the bots' AI and the Matchmaking system! The optimization is on the way into the game!

Sep 7, 2023, 03:3909/07/23
04/08/23
4

I see how it's being worked on. Loosing 2 out of 3 every time with loses like 15 and 18 to 9. Your game programers make the enemy bots cheat so bad it really looks like a character flaw in their self. Like they are the same people that steal office supply and eat other people's food from the break room when no ones looking. Then wanna rat on anyone else for any little thing they see someone do. I watched a bot get killed 3 times in a row and never fired a shot. Just walked circles for 2 minutes till enemy killed it. That's TRASH! Your CO. Should expect better!! 

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Sep 7, 2023, 12:4609/07/23
02/10/23
2031
WarCriminal

I see how it's being worked on. Loosing 2 out of 3 every time with loses like 15 and 18 to 9. Your game programers make the enemy bots cheat so bad it really looks like a character flaw in their self. Like they are the same people that steal office supply and eat other people's food from the break room when no ones looking. Then wanna rat on anyone else for any little thing they see someone do. I watched a bot get killed 3 times in a row and never fired a shot. Just walked circles for 2 minutes till enemy killed it. That's TRASH! Your CO. Should expect better!! 

There is no cheating in bots' behavior. Yeah, they may have pretty powerful equipment, and their performance can be really good but still, they are not players, they don't have logic, comprehensive strategy, and stuff. We are actively working to upgrade their AI to make them more close to a real player

Sep 8, 2023, 04:3609/08/23
04/08/23
4

How often does this happen? 

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Sep 8, 2023, 04:4109/08/23
04/08/23
4

Because here is a pic of #1 in the heat that ended right before the one above, that has not ended yet. 

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Sep 8, 2023, 05:2609/08/23
09/30/22
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CrystalDrew

There is no cheating in bots' behavior. Yeah, they may have pretty powerful equipment, and their performance can be really good but still, they are not players, they don't have logic, comprehensive strategy, and stuff. We are actively working to upgrade their AI to make them more close to a real player

I'm willing to bet that this AI upgrade is going to make the game way worse. If I understand CrystalDrew, the intention of Plarium is to make the AI "more close to a real player" meaning they will actually have BETTER strategy and logic. I think that the point has missed entirely. The problem isn't half as much the bots behavior but rather that they always have optimized gear that gives unfair advantage against players. The fact that most weapons they have are maxed implant/pilot means they one hit anything. This creates a problem with random variations where some matches the opposing BOTs get 18-19 kills while your own get 5-7 (among 4).


The player community just wants the BOTs not to be jacked. It would be far far easier to fix that than to upgrade the AI. Enhancing the AI without addressing the weapon disparity is only going to exacerbate the problem.


I'm so very close to peacing out on this game... 

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Sep 8, 2023, 10:1309/08/23
02/10/23
2031
Divine

I'm willing to bet that this AI upgrade is going to make the game way worse. If I understand CrystalDrew, the intention of Plarium is to make the AI "more close to a real player" meaning they will actually have BETTER strategy and logic. I think that the point has missed entirely. The problem isn't half as much the bots behavior but rather that they always have optimized gear that gives unfair advantage against players. The fact that most weapons they have are maxed implant/pilot means they one hit anything. This creates a problem with random variations where some matches the opposing BOTs get 18-19 kills while your own get 5-7 (among 4).


The player community just wants the BOTs not to be jacked. It would be far far easier to fix that than to upgrade the AI. Enhancing the AI without addressing the weapon disparity is only going to exacerbate the problem.


I'm so very close to peacing out on this game... 

You are correct, but partly. Currently, the bots indeed have some way too powerful stats and equipment just because, in fully equal conditions, they can't compete with a real player. They don't have advanced logic, tactics, and creativity (speaking shortly - skills) to be able to be competitive to a player.

Right now, our developers are working on the AI to make the bots more realistic. It means that they will be able to perform in a way like a real player, make decisions like a real player, and make mistakes like a real player. It's expected that the game experience will be improved in this way

Sep 8, 2023, 14:3609/08/23
Sep 8, 2023, 14:41(edited)
11/12/21
129
CrystalDrew

There is no cheating in bots' behavior. Yeah, they may have pretty powerful equipment, and their performance can be really good but still, they are not players, they don't have logic, comprehensive strategy, and stuff. We are actively working to upgrade their AI to make them more close to a real player

not cheating but pre designed reduced efficiency of both bots and weapons during peak time when most player are active,

the same weapons that I used to to one shot 6 stars enemies will be reduced to uselesness when the game decides it want me as cannon fodder to reward player who just paid for something, my bots will act cowardly and do not engage the enemy, resulting in zero kills, at best all bots combined will have 4 kills during same match, the other side bots appear more agressive more pushy and more importantly faster damaging than the usual,resulting in other team win even if the other player perform badly, I use he same playstyle that gets me 70% win rate agasint other players, but during peak time it seems no matther how hard i try to carry the team I end up losing even with 15 plus kills, but of course because my bots sucks I will have to componsate for them with an extra 10 kills on top of 15 kills just to win but thats impossible feat.

just now I had an enemy bastion shoot me with railgun and ems from behind a barrier block as if he can shoot through walls, my mortars do no damage even from a 41m distance with maxed radius implants, absolutely impossible, meanwhile the enemy mortars can hit even my fastest mechs with mortars.

I could go on but i dont have time for this BS, I kinda know the time of the day when this s*** start to happens so I just avoid playing during that time


Edited: offensive language is prohibited

Sep 8, 2023, 18:1209/08/23
04/08/23
4

You keep saying that the bots don't use logic and aren't cheating because they're programmed. What you don't understand is all the More powerful weapons and faster moves and everything that they get programed with, , , , That's the cheating.  the cheating is in the program that they're programmed with. Just like earlier I said Every bot i get teamed  with is trash and the whole enemy team are aces. When the programmers stack the game aginst a player 9 to 1, , , thats cheating the real player out of the fun experience that this game has to offer. And now since this last update ITS WORSE!! All 6 of my bots killed in 2 or less shots. Ark torent 12 with that extra little boost then a torrent 6 with the right pilot on Baston  stacked. Shields, pilot implants everything. No good. 1 , 2 shots im dead picking a new mech. EVERY BATTLE! EVERY TIME NOW. Turn a corner boom dead. Look to the left boom dead. Respawn and don't have time to look boom dead. That's not fun. That's not a fun appealing game that's awesome to play. I quit this game for several months because of the same thing happening back then. Came back a couple weeks ago and was surprised at how good this game had turned around. But it's going back to the BS that we all have been telling you about. Just seems stupid that changes are made to the game that makes players not want to play. Much more of this crap and ill just go back to an Artstorm game.