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Aug 28, 2023, 14:4208/28/23
12/19/22
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Matchmaking Feedback

Just wanted to give a little feedback on matchmaking.  

First, with the exception of tournaments, I think it's getting a little better.  I've been noticing that my CPC and PVP (non-tournament) opponents have not been quite so far above my squad power than they have been in the past.  I haven't had anyone more than about 800 points above me all weekend.  Also, the performance of some of the bots is getting pretty good.  Much more like players than I've ever seen from them.  Great job!

Second, while within 800 points of me is good, I'd really like to see that brought down to within 500 points of my squad power in either direction (plus or minus of it).

Third, I've heard that, because they want this game to be challenging to the players, the more you win, the tougher your opponents.  Mech Arena, please keep in mind that there is a difference between challenging and punishing.  I'd like to think that I work hard on being a good player.  I strategize and seriously think about where I'm going and what I'm doing.  I don't just rush out and bash my head into the enemy like an early bot.  I don't want to be penalized for good game play.  It's really the biggest reason for my second point above.  There have been times when I can tell that I'm going to get beaten even before a match starts - why? - because I've won four in a row or because I pulled in half or more of my teams kills or something.  Please don't punish me by simply throwing opponents with better gear at me.  Ideally, if you can get the bots done right, there should be levels of bots (using gear similar to what is in my squad) that simply use better and better tactics.  This would be the ideal way of "challenging" a good player.

Finally, I've said numerous times that I'm an achievement hunter.  What this really means is that I have some legendaries that I've purchased (by saving ACoins, I'm still F2P) or won in events, but I don't use them.  I'm often worried that I'm considered an SP dropper by the system, in spite of the fact that I consistently run the same squad.  I could easily have a higher squad rating, but don't by choice - doesn't matter if I'm in CPC, PVP, or tournament, I'm usually running the same setup (or one with a lower power yet).  As you make the changes that are needed to catch cheaters and make the game fair (and thank you for even trying!!!), please don't forget about people like me who may have a legitimate reason to be running a squad at a lower power.  

I do have a suggestion on how to deal with some of it for matchmaking, but this post is long enough and I've already typed a paragraph that started with the word "finally".  :)

Thank you for the work you do and for considering some of the above points.

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Aug 28, 2023, 15:3008/28/23
02/10/23
2031

Hello! Thanks a lot for your feedback. You know that the Matchmaking system is not in its ultimate state, but as you considered, the work is in progress, and improvements are already visible.

"I've heard that, because they want this game to be challenging to the players, the more you win, the tougher your opponents." - it's possible to find this information in the community and I know from where it came from, but it's appeared to be a misinterpretation. In fact, Hangar Power is the main detail.

Talking about the Achievements and stuff, it's considered by the devs. Of course, it's possible that the system may consider you an SP dropper by mistake, but the probability is low as SP droppers are usually abusing the system more noticeably and rudely!

Aug 28, 2023, 16:3708/28/23
02/22/15
47

this game closes fast, and really a bunch of losers hiding at the bottom of the map. whoever thought up this game must have some mental illness..... crafty low hangar, BOT hackers, and hidden losers, you vomit at every game.

Aug 28, 2023, 23:2408/28/23
Aug 28, 2023, 23:29(edited)
09/26/22
139

You sure about that? My last opponents were 4k below me 🤦‍♂️🤣 while my previous opponent was 11k. I'm 9k. I see zero difference. The reports on Discord haven't changed either so you might just be getting lucky because a lot of players are boycotting the game right now.

Matchmaking is always good for a few battles after an update and then returns to the same bs later in the day.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Aug 29, 2023, 09:0208/29/23
02/10/23
2031
wrecker

You sure about that? My last opponents were 4k below me 🤦‍♂️🤣 while my previous opponent was 11k. I'm 9k. I see zero difference. The reports on Discord haven't changed either so you might just be getting lucky because a lot of players are boycotting the game right now.

Matchmaking is always good for a few battles after an update and then returns to the same bs later in the day.

Perhaps the reason is in your Hangar. It may be designed in a way that the system starts to perform incorrectly. However, it will be fixed soon

Aug 29, 2023, 20:3508/29/23
09/26/22
139
CrystalDrew

Perhaps the reason is in your Hangar. It may be designed in a way that the system starts to perform incorrectly. However, it will be fixed soon

Nothing wrong with my hangar 🤦‍♂️ it's the garbage matchmaking as evidenced by hundreds of players with similar experiences. After playing today, it's the same broken system...

Aug 29, 2023, 21:0308/29/23
09/30/22
71
wrecker

Nothing wrong with my hangar 🤦‍♂️ it's the garbage matchmaking as evidenced by hundreds of players with similar experiences. After playing today, it's the same broken system...

Epic response, mate.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Aug 30, 2023, 07:3108/30/23
02/10/23
2031
wrecker

Nothing wrong with my hangar 🤦‍♂️ it's the garbage matchmaking as evidenced by hundreds of players with similar experiences. After playing today, it's the same broken system...

How do you know if your Hangar is "wrong" or "correct" if it's clear only for the devs who build the Matchmaking algorithms? By saying "wrong," I don't criticize it or blame you, no, I mean it may be the cause of why the Matchmaking system works in such a way.

"After playing today, it's the same broken system" - If you reread my responses, you will find out that I've already said numerous times that we need time to improve it. Not a day or two.

Aug 30, 2023, 21:2808/30/23
Aug 30, 2023, 21:38(edited)
09/26/22
139
CrystalDrew

How do you know if your Hangar is "wrong" or "correct" if it's clear only for the devs who build the Matchmaking algorithms? By saying "wrong," I don't criticize it or blame you, no, I mean it may be the cause of why the Matchmaking system works in such a way.

"After playing today, it's the same broken system" - If you reread my responses, you will find out that I've already said numerous times that we need time to improve it. Not a day or two.

My hangar literally does not change and I get players anywhere from 5k to 13k. This is caused by a broken matchmaking system, not my hangar. And when I do change things up, it's still the same bad matchmaking. The complaints from others are still piling up on your specially created Discord channel. But, it's my hangar setup causing others to have the same bad matchmaking 🤦‍♂️

You were just gloating how the matchmaking has improved based on one player saying it has while mine and others say different. Now, and yet again, you say you need time to improve it. Which is it??? Can't be both 🤦‍♂️We've been hearing the same excuse on why it hasn't been fixed yet for well over a year now.

I've already stated numerous times as well that the team of devs responsible for it are incompetent and not very smart if they haven't fixed it yet.......or it's rigged on purpose to get people to spend....you choose.....it's one or the other.....