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Jul 7, 2023, 15:3207/07/23
08/29/22
37

Problems with Mech Arena

these are some of the problems that I have with Mech Arena. and possible solutions 

Bots. In order to compinsate for the atrocious AI, bots have been made STUPIDLY powerful. once you unlock implants they will always have max level pilots with max implants, not to mention there weppons and mechs, which are always at least 1 tear above yours. (excluding those people who over level one of there mechs) the only time this isn't true is for max or close to max level players. but bot AI is so bad that they can't acomplish anything when fighting skilled players unless they are significantly stronger then them. you might have also noticed that bot will always target real players over any other target. It also feel like they have eyes on the back of there heads, but are compleatly blind to the minimap. unless they are running Mortars, in witch case they will continuously lob shells at you untill they can't see you on the minimap or you're dead.

the solution is to improve bot AI and reduce the level of equipment they can use, including pilots and implants. (I realize that the DEVS are already working on this)

Mortar. reduce its DMG and increase its AOE. the problem with mortar is you can't hit anyone unless you have a legendary implant, but if you have on then you can wipe out the entire opposing team easily. mortar should do a small ammout of DMG in a large radious, not a kill zone. alternatively you could make in a legendary weppon

concerning Tournament mode, istead of having people play on the same map every time, have it cycle between two or three (or four) different maps throughout the day. or have the map selection be normal but with fewer choices (two, or three, or four). this way it will be less repetitive and boring.

The last thing I want to mention is the new progress system. I feel like when it comes out, most of the mechs and weppons will cost A-coins. I think that around half of all mechs and weppons should cost creddits, even if it's a lot of creddits (like 2,000,000 or more). creddits feel easier to save up than A-coins, even if it takes the same amount of time. I would rather save up 5,000,000 creddits over 8,000 A-coins and instead use my A-coins to upgrade mechs I already have. (also make A-coins more consistantly obtainable)

Personoly I like mech arena and don't want it do die out, but I,ve been unable to play it and have fun, due to the vast number of problems. I'm going to start up again once the new progress system come out and would apreciate it if somone would give the estimated release date. (I would also like to thank the DEVS for there hard work [I'm assuming they are actualy working to fix the problems])

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CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Jul 10, 2023, 10:3307/10/23
02/10/23
2079

Hello! Thanks a lot for sharing such comprehensive feedback with us! We are happy that you like it and are really in the game. I will comment on some of your points gradually:

  1. The bots issue: we are currently working on the bots. The problems you've described are caused due to the technical possibilities and restrictions that we have right now. However, our aim is to make the bots close to a real player and improve their performance. The work is in progress, and it will definitely take time as developing the AI is complicated. Still, they will get better in the future.
  2. Mortar: we will consider your suggestions on this Weapon. Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs.
  3. Tournament mode: your suggestion about several Maps will be passed on to our developers.
  4. New Progress System: you are right - some of the Content will be available for Credits, some for A-Coins. The release date is still unrevealed as the future is under active development. We need some time to get it finished.

I hope my comments will be useful and informative for you. There are a lot of novelties and improvements for the game, hope it will bring your much fun in the future 🙂


Jul 10, 2023, 18:1807/10/23
06/20/22
384

I think the solution to bots is GET RID OF THEM

Jul 10, 2023, 21:3307/10/23
08/08/19
1

The game has totally! changes in last two weeks !!!  Been a player for a long time and spent many $$$  unfortunately not changed for good but now considering stop playing ...  Now the game is no longer about figthing and getting most dmg to get a win ..... now all focus on captures  :(((   the programmers screwed us fighters!   They made it wayyy to easy to capture.    bye bye Mech arena .... 

Jul 10, 2023, 22:1207/10/23
12/19/22
125
BAAB

I think the solution to bots is GET RID OF THEM

Respectfully, I disagree if you are making that as a blanket statement.  If you are saying that they should go away if your squad power is high enough to be in the end game, then fine (please add that qualification to your statement to avoid confusion).  

However for someone like me, I need bots to be around so I can have someone to go against at the 3500 level.  I know there aren't many at my squad strength, and its proven correct every time I play tournament.  I'm constantly going against players with 4.5-5k squads.  Its frustrating and frankly, unfair.  

Do bots need to be tuned better, yes.  Do they need to have fair and reasonable weapon, implants and pilots - you'd better believe it.  Do we still need them to fill the gaps when players of our strength are unavailable - absolutely.

Thanks

Jul 12, 2023, 16:2507/12/23
06/20/22
384
GothIxkin

Respectfully, I disagree if you are making that as a blanket statement.  If you are saying that they should go away if your squad power is high enough to be in the end game, then fine (please add that qualification to your statement to avoid confusion).  

However for someone like me, I need bots to be around so I can have someone to go against at the 3500 level.  I know there aren't many at my squad strength, and its proven correct every time I play tournament.  I'm constantly going against players with 4.5-5k squads.  Its frustrating and frankly, unfair.  

Do bots need to be tuned better, yes.  Do they need to have fair and reasonable weapon, implants and pilots - you'd better believe it.  Do we still need them to fill the gaps when players of our strength are unavailable - absolutely.

Thanks

Tournament is mostly for end game players. Of course it's mostly populated by them.

Jul 14, 2023, 06:4007/14/23
Jul 14, 2023, 06:49(edited)
07/08/23
9

"Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs"

You get feedback on a nearly daily baisis that mortars are terrible in their curtrent iteration.  How many times and how many people need to say this.  

Here I'll do your job for you:

“Balanced” AIs aka „Mega-Bots“ 

whats up with mortar bots

Remove mortars 

GREAT BALANCE..

great game balance

the overpowered mechs with rocket mortar !!!!!!!!

Including this one thats SEVEN threads in the first 5 pages of the forums.  And I probably missed several more where RM is discussed but not the main topic.  I challenge you to go to general discusion - click on any single number at the bottom of the forums and find a page that doesnt have at least one thread telling you RM sucks.  You don't listen to the players or at the very least you dont do anythign about what they tell you.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Jul 14, 2023, 09:3607/14/23
02/10/23
2079
FixYourSh!t

"Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs"

You get feedback on a nearly daily baisis that mortars are terrible in their curtrent iteration.  How many times and how many people need to say this.  

Here I'll do your job for you:

“Balanced” AIs aka „Mega-Bots“ 

whats up with mortar bots

Remove mortars 

GREAT BALANCE..

great game balance

the overpowered mechs with rocket mortar !!!!!!!!

Including this one thats SEVEN threads in the first 5 pages of the forums.  And I probably missed several more where RM is discussed but not the main topic.  I challenge you to go to general discusion - click on any single number at the bottom of the forums and find a page that doesnt have at least one thread telling you RM sucks.  You don't listen to the players or at the very least you dont do anythign about what they tell you.

Hello! First of all, we are aware of all the issues in the game and the community. The developers know about the mentioned subjects. We are looking for ways to solve these issues.

Secondly, you provide me with seven threads. I understand that these topics are important to players, and there are real issues that should be somehow solved. However, the community doesn't limit these seven threads only, and it's impossible to please everyone's desires. It will be a total mess if we try to do it as opinions are different.

In this way, the course of our work is ruled by the average preferences of our players and is aimed to make our game better. Many changes and improvements are on the way into the game and we are constantly working on it!

Jul 14, 2023, 11:2007/14/23
Jul 14, 2023, 11:38(edited)
07/08/23
9

You literally said in the last post you have no intention of doing anything to fix rocket mortars

Here I will quote you again

"Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs"

But now that I called you out about ignoring the feedback on RM suddenly its a known issue and you are fixing it. 

You are inconsistent in your replys and your constant promise of "we are working on it" is just a vapid reply that means absolutely nothing to anyone.


CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Jul 14, 2023, 11:3807/14/23
02/10/23
2079
FixYourSh!t

You literally said in the last post you have no intention of doing anything to fix rocket mortars

Here I will quote you again

"Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs"

But now that I called you out about ignoring the feedback on RM suddenly its a known issue and you are fixing it. 

You are inconsistent in your replys and your constant promise of "we are working on it" is just a vapid reply that means absolutely nothing to anyone.


Working on the issue doesn't mean that the solution is to rebalance the Content. The game mechanics are much more complicated than it may seem as well as a lot of tiny details affect the overall balance. Working on RM doesn't mean that we will necessarily change it. Rebalancing the Content is what we are trying to avoid. So, I meant we are working on how to make RM be felt good in the current state of affairs. Please, don't try to twist my words

Jul 14, 2023, 12:3707/14/23
12/19/22
125
BAAB

Tournament is mostly for end game players. Of course it's mostly populated by them.

Really??  So I'm an end game player at squad strength 3500?!?!?!?  SWEET!!!!  Lets hear from all those other end gamers with squads at around 3500!!!

<chirp>   <chirp-chirp>    <chirp>    <silence>

Okaaaaaaay.

Now, I want to be able to play this game, so......... bring me some bots!!!!!   (just please make them balanced and the same power level as me)

Jul 15, 2023, 17:4707/15/23
12/08/22
124

THE ROCKETY MORTAR they don't care if it slaughters you every time. and a common weapon, where the projects are given away, they don't earn, they don't waste their miserable time for the rocket. as an EM RIFLE to then nefarlo. THIS IS THE PROBLEM INCAPITY AND GREEDY. MEDIOCRE GAME UNABLE DEVELOPERS. HERE'S THE REALITY... money you're just SPENNAREW CHICKENS nothing else. open your eyes, scam, just a scam game,

Jul 16, 2023, 12:5007/16/23
09/26/22
146
BAAB

Tournament is mostly for end game players. Of course it's mostly populated by them.

It's not mostly for top tier players. Most don't even play that mode because it's easier to just buy acoins than grind out battles against sp droppers. Most of their time is spent playing cpc or customs.

Jul 29, 2023, 08:1307/29/23
04/16/23
157
CrystalDrew

Hello! Thanks a lot for sharing such comprehensive feedback with us! We are happy that you like it and are really in the game. I will comment on some of your points gradually:

  1. The bots issue: we are currently working on the bots. The problems you've described are caused due to the technical possibilities and restrictions that we have right now. However, our aim is to make the bots close to a real player and improve their performance. The work is in progress, and it will definitely take time as developing the AI is complicated. Still, they will get better in the future.
  2. Mortar: we will consider your suggestions on this Weapon. Currently, it seems okay for the balance we have. Nevertheless, if we continue to receive similar feedback on Mortars, we will definitely think about how to improve the state of affairs.
  3. Tournament mode: your suggestion about several Maps will be passed on to our developers.
  4. New Progress System: you are right - some of the Content will be available for Credits, some for A-Coins. The release date is still unrevealed as the future is under active development. We need some time to get it finished.

I hope my comments will be useful and informative for you. There are a lot of novelties and improvements for the game, hope it will bring your much fun in the future 🙂


oh seriously ?all bots on my team just stare at the wall.

Aug 7, 2023, 21:5908/07/23
07/07/23
1

I agree with most of these problems but I want to add the fact that the gear hub is unavailable to old players. I don't know whether they will ever add the ability to use gear hub for older players or not but I feel that it should be available for both new and old players so its more fair considering the fact that you can unlock things by getting higher tiers and gear hub but for old players, the only way to get some of that stuff is by spending money or getting them in events like playoffs and crate rushes.

CrystalDrewCommunity Manager
Aug 8, 2023, 10:0008/08/23
02/10/23
2079
Hmm

I agree with most of these problems but I want to add the fact that the gear hub is unavailable to old players. I don't know whether they will ever add the ability to use gear hub for older players or not but I feel that it should be available for both new and old players so its more fair considering the fact that you can unlock things by getting higher tiers and gear hub but for old players, the only way to get some of that stuff is by spending money or getting them in events like playoffs and crate rushes.

Hello! It's unavailable for old players 'cause it's not been released yet. Those who have access to this feature are in a testing group, and Gear Hub may become pretty reworked after its actual release. Eventually, the New Progress System will be available for everyone but later. It's a comprehensive feature and we need some time to polish it! 😉