Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

i think facebook  is beginning to require HTML5 .   stormfall currently is still adobe flash.   there wont be a need to migrate to facebook unless plarium gets on the ball and upgradefs to HTML5.

and the time is ticking  FAST on that.  most tech analysts would say we are on the event horizon for plarium to not have enough time. 

CMs will tell you "devs are working to migrate to HTML5"   but theyve been saying that long enough for it to have already happened if it were going too. 

Alina phoenix can post roll out timeline if she'd like to refute anything ive said in this post. 

Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

And no plarium is not planning on migrating on to Facebook. They already have games there, including Stormfall. 

Is there a plan to only play Stormfall through a Facebook account?   Plarium/Rockyou/Wonderhill/Rockyou has taken my Edgeworld game and made it, starting 1/1/18, to ONLY play through Facebook.   A few other games also are in that boat.

I refuse to start a FB account, certainly not just to play that game, but I wonder if there are plans to let Facebook run the access to this game.

BiohazarD said:

hebroots said:

Is there a plan to only play Stormfall through a Facebook account?   Plarium/Rockyou/Wonderhill/Rockyou has taken my Edgeworld game and made it, starting 1/1/18, to ONLY play through Facebook.   A few other games also are in that boat.

I refuse to start a FB account, certainly not just to play that game, but I wonder if there are plans to let Facebook run the access to this game.

There is already a stormfall game on facebook and some players play on both, so it wouldn't make sense for them to merge the plarium.com game onto facebook.  

I certainly appreciate the comments/replies.  What "makes sense", however, can vary with time and circumstances.  Just a drag to lose all one's time and money on a game that they can just swoop out from underneath your feet.   I like Stormfall, hope they keep it as-is.

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

And no plarium is not planning on migrating on to Facebook. They already have games there, including Stormfall. 

Do you have any evidence or statistics to back up your assertion?  I've never seen any numbers showing that the facebook version of the game earns more than the plarium.com version.  

Congratulations that is the smartest thing you have said for the intire year. 

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

And no plarium is not planning on migrating on to Facebook. They already have games there, including Stormfall. 

Do you have any evidence or statistics to back up your assertion?  I've never seen any numbers showing that the facebook version of the game earns more than the plarium.com version.  

Congratulations that is the smartest thing you have said for the intire year. 

Google is your friend. It's rather idiotic that a mod does not know this information. You can also ask Alyona ( if she is still around), you can do so under the protection of information act. 

yeah, Biohazard. 

ive got to side with Oracle on this one. that was a pretty dopey response.   if you read ANY of gabi shaleel's interviews there is a huge focus on facebook because thats where the money is. 

 Look for the new "stormfall" mobile game to added to facebook to replace the browser one. although Alyona and Alina have only been told that it wont replace it, it will add to the lore, that is plarium's answer to the HTML5 migrtation. a fresh start. 

I spend a lot of time following the MMO community online. Reading articles, watching tech trends, looking for interviews given by CEOs and employees of games in playing or interested in.  There is a wealth of information readily available from a bunch of different sources. 

 
There is also a lot of info online about the culture of plarium and how things work on the inside. Plarium is a  fast rising rockstar in the gaming world and a lot has been said so there is much content to glean info from. 

the CMs are told to tell us that the devs are hard at work on updating our game for the death of flash, but if you know the culture at Plarium there is a huge barrier between the CMs and the developers.   they are usually just as disconnected from what is going on as we are.  They are telling us what they know to be true, its just that its not always true when its told to them.   

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

And no plarium is not planning on migrating on to Facebook. They already have games there, including Stormfall. 

Do you have any evidence or statistics to back up your assertion?  I've never seen any numbers showing that the facebook version of the game earns more than the plarium.com version.  

Congratulations that is the smartest thing you have said for the intire year. 

Google is your friend. It's rather idiotic that a mod does not know this information. You can also ask Alyona ( if she is still around), you can do so under the protection of information act. 

yeah, Biohazard. 

ive got to side with Oracle on this one. that was a pretty dopey response.   if you read ANY of gabi shaleel's interviews there is a huge focus on facebook because thats where the money is. 

 Look for the new "stormfall" mobile game to added to facebook to replace the browser one. although Alyona and Alina have only been told that it wont replace it, it will add to the lore, that is plarium's answer to the HTML5 migrtation. a fresh start. 

I spend a lot of time following the MMO community online. Reading articles, watching tech trends, looking for interviews given by CEOs and employees of games in playing or interested in.  There is a wealth of information readily available from a bunch of different sources. 

 
There is also a lot of info online about the culture of plarium and how things work on the inside. Plarium is a  fast rising rockstar in the gaming world and a lot has been said so there is much content to glean info from. 

the CMs are told to tell us that the devs are hard at work on updating our game for the death of flash, but if you know the culture at Plarium there is a huge barrier between the CMs and the developers.   they are usually just as disconnected from what is going on as we are.  They are telling us what they know to be true, its just that its not always true when its told to them.   

So while the official line from the community manager is "the developers are working on it"  the truth is that the developers are really locked in their offices playing overwatch while the art team works on the mobile app story boards. 

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

Can you guarantee that all our ingame assets will carry over on the new engine?

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

BiohazarD said:

IronApex Turok said:

Oracle said:

BiohazarD said:

Oracle said:

Facebook is certainly better than hosting your own game. Plarium make more money on Facebook compared to on plarium.com. 

And no plarium is not planning on migrating on to Facebook. They already have games there, including Stormfall. 

Do you have any evidence or statistics to back up your assertion?  I've never seen any numbers showing that the facebook version of the game earns more than the plarium.com version.  

Congratulations that is the smartest thing you have said for the intire year. 

Google is your friend. It's rather idiotic that a mod does not know this information. You can also ask Alyona ( if she is still around), you can do so under the protection of information act. 

yeah, Biohazard. 

ive got to side with Oracle on this one. that was a pretty dopey response.   if you read ANY of gabi shaleel's interviews there is a huge focus on facebook because thats where the money is. 

 Look for the new "stormfall" mobile game to added to facebook to replace the browser one. although Alyona and Alina have only been told that it wont replace it, it will add to the lore, that is plarium's answer to the HTML5 migrtation. a fresh start. 

I spend a lot of time following the MMO community online. Reading articles, watching tech trends, looking for interviews given by CEOs and employees of games in playing or interested in.  There is a wealth of information readily available from a bunch of different sources. 

 
There is also a lot of info online about the culture of plarium and how things work on the inside. Plarium is a  fast rising rockstar in the gaming world and a lot has been said so there is much content to glean info from. 

the CMs are told to tell us that the devs are hard at work on updating our game for the death of flash, but if you know the culture at Plarium there is a huge barrier between the CMs and the developers.   they are usually just as disconnected from what is going on as we are.  They are telling us what they know to be true, its just that its not always true when its told to them.   

So while the official line from the community manager is "the developers are working on it"  the truth is that the developers are really locked in their offices playing overwatch while the art team works on the mobile app story boards. 

Ah, ok.  Sorry, I don't monitor Plarium's owner like some of you guys do, I just play the game.  

You are also a mod. Following plarium news allow you to answer questions like this, rather than just type arround

Gadheras said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

Can you guarantee that all our ingame assets will carry over on the new engine?

I'm not a fortune-teller to guarantee anything that will happen in the future :)

What I guarantee is that devs are working on moving to the new engine and according to their plans it should go smooth. 

Gadheras said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Gadheras said:

Alina Phoenix said:

Hello, guys!

Lord IronApex Turok, welcome back! I missed your 'Flash will die' topics :)

So, turning back to the initial question, plarium.com and Facebook are absolutely different platforms, they won't be combined into one.

Replying to Lord IronApex Turok favorite question, yes, devs are working on the new game engine and not only for plarium.com, but for Facebook as well.

The game won't die when Flash will do it in 2020.

Can you guarantee that all our ingame assets will carry over on the new engine?

I'm not a fortune-teller to guarantee anything that will happen in the future :)

What I guarantee is that devs are working on moving to the new engine and according to their plans it should go smooth. 

So, you promote this new game EXILE in your news. But so far you failed to give us any insight or promotion to what Stormfall will be on a new engine or what we can expect of changing to it. There is players that invested A LOT of money in this game, and Im quite sure they would LOVE for reasureance of get their money worth moved onto the new engine. 

How about share some of what you doing with the new engine for stormfall at same level is being presented for EXILE? If you want us to invest into your future, at least SHOW us what we can expect of the future. 

she cant do that. there is a virtual barrier between the devs and the CMs at plarium.   the devs tell her " we are working on it"  and thats all she knows. 

mean while, they are in their offices playing overwatch.

Dimitri Molchanov said:

Gadheras said:

I'm not mixing up the two games,, all I ask for is same level of transparency. And this is not something unique, you can look at just about any game company out there, there is dev blongs, behind the scenes videos, showing work in progress and so on. Why should it be so for Plarium to do something similar. And no, have some people talk in some youtube video is not the same, as actually SHOW US, give a teaser, a little insight etc.

These are two completely different teams and completely different games. Developing something from scratch is far more interesting to observe than the process of porting a game from one engine to another. The updates would literally be along the lines of "We worked on some code this week" and "The code we made last week is giving us some issues when we fit it into the overall game, so now are going through it to find a bug and remove it". Writing developer blogs takes up work resources as well, and at the moment highlighting the process of engine adjustment is simply not worth those resources.

There will be other features coming to Stormfall in the meanwhile, and closer to the time you will see teaser sand highlights for them.

Actually no, the work to port like a flash game over to something else is just not press of a button. It would be of interest for us the players to observe the process or at least get a glimpse of what going on behind the scene, because it give us the players as an actual stake holder in this game (you know the people funding the damn thing), a way to see actual things being worked on, other than some guy saying it is. 

Also, (smug face). EXILE is not from scratch, it make use of the unity engine and by own addmission they use off the shelf art assets obtained through the Unity store. (although, modified for their use). 

Dimitri Molchanov said:

Gadheras said:

Also, (smug face). EXILE is not from scratch, it make use of the unity engine and by own addmission they use off the shelf art assets obtained through the Unity store. (although, modified for their use). 

If you want to argue semantics, sure. The point is - Exile is a new game, Stormfall already exists and while it will be ported over to a new engine, the base assets remain the same. So far we have no reason to believe similar dev blogs on Stormfall engine port process will be interesting enough to the wide player audience to warrant their creation.

Okay example, do you think such a game as "star citizen" which been in works forever, but managed to crate a huge community and people throwing money at them even before it released, manged to do this without show what they working on and progress? 

In my honest view, what Stormfall need, is for the players to be excited about the future. Look at it as rally the players. You would be surprised what is interesting for players and not. At current time just knowing and seeing devs actually working on the process would be a big boost. (believe it or not). And there is enough of tech nerds (and similar) playing that would be greatly interested in what the game get ported onto/as and so forth. 

I know this clip a bit cheesy, but this is something that is needed, and the only one able to give us this is Plarium.

Cheesy is fine, I did enjoy the Hobbit for what it was 

And sure, I understand that there will be players who'd be interested in seeing the process and adding their feedback "directly" during it. But as it stands right now, that exact thing will not be happening in Stormfall for the reasons outlined above. What I can confirm, is that there will be new features introduced to the game. And as far as I know, the amount of media content to inform our players about what's coming is also going to increase.

Dimitri Molchanov said:

I am afraid there is not much else I can add on this matter. At the moment developer blogs for Stormfall are not happening, that might change in the future but I give no guarantee. All that we can do at the moment is wait and see.

The best part of gaming communities, is when you the player, get the feeling you part of the community, a stakeholder in it. I support several projects on Patreon, indy devs making games (and other things). I bought into many early access games on steam, and been active helping testing, giving feedback and tbh, its fun when the creators interact with the players. It gives a somewhat good impression when the creators just as excited about their work/game as the player/consumer is. The difference when it come to Plarium, there is a wall called management... (or at least the impression).

As Dj said above, just a bit of commitment would go a long way. And the sad thing is, the time and effort to give us a glimpse of that is such a minor thing. I guess as a working bee in the hive, its not much you can do. Unless you willing to kick the door to the management wide open and slam your fist in their desk, but doubt that would happen anytime soon :p If they had been attached the same way to the players as they to their wallets, maybe things been different :p