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29 берез. 2021, 20:0829.03.21
14.01.16
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champ quest 7th order

Having opened 50 duke missive I still have not had a 7th order. It does seem that 1% chance is very tight. On the good side, I have completed all the other orders

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AlinaCommunity Manager
30 берез. 2021, 11:4830.03.21
21.05.19
3507

Hi, my Lords! Actually, we didn't ignore this matter. At first, we've posted Tips&Tricks on this feature to help players master it. Then we've introduced Global Events that will help you to earn more points. And we'll do more if needed here. No worries, you're not being ignored. Just try different tactics to achieve more and let us know the results 😎

30 берез. 2021, 12:3930.03.21
6 квіт. 2021, 11:37(edited)
10.07.14
342

I already explained the Global Events speed up elements that were already easy, while doing nothing to address the intentional blocker of 7th orders. They are actually making the situation worse.

And there are no "Tips & Tricks" that can reasonably overcome the 7th order drop rate (also already explained in my post).

Suggesting people try "different tactics" is just a refusal to address the situation.

Trying to make money so aggressively and cynically just alienates you from your player base. It will hurt your long term profit, even if an analyast somewhere thinks its creating some short term profit.

You can listen to that feedback or ignore it. I talk to A LOT of players.

MicAdmin
31 берез. 2021, 07:1231.03.21
22.02.19
1633

Is not easy , but also not  impossible ... 

Like always the precious things have a cost , so an order 7 champion quest has one, usually i change the quest for 10 saphs until i get what i want 😎...just  saying !

19 квіт. 2021, 16:4119.04.21
04.10.13
3875
Mic

Is not easy , but also not  impossible ... 

Like always the precious things have a cost , so an order 7 champion quest has one, usually i change the quest for 10 saphs until i get what i want 😎...just  saying !

Yep, it's up to players whether to pay that cost or not.  The main rewards for doing it are emeralds and orbs, both of which can also be earned from free to play stuff if you have the time.  

21 квіт. 2021, 20:0621.04.21
22.02.16
1845

I attacked no one so let's not make this personal  All I did was explain that no one in those leagues get "free sapphires" as you called them all members earn the right to be in the those leagues and most turn them into making that league stronger  it's a self prepetuating thing. 

22 квіт. 2021, 15:4622.04.21
22 квіт. 2021, 15:50(edited)
20.02.17
107

12 now and i spent max 1500 shappires.. they don t stop.. 19 of 6th orders as well.  Pay atention how often they dropped.. see activation time

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24 квіт. 2021, 14:5124.04.21
22.02.16
1845

To pursue your converstation would take this topic even further off topic you already have. 

29 квіт. 2021, 15:3129.04.21
04.10.13
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Alex

During the event the 7th order missives should have a drop chance of 3.5%. I opened about 150 Duke's missives but didnt get a 7th order missive. Thanks for the ****. 

The event didn't change the drop chance of the missives, only the 5 daily ones you receive and when you refresh with sapphires.  

30 квіт. 2021, 02:0930.04.21
22.02.16
1845

The event clearly stated that missives would not generate the increased Drop rate I'm sorry that you did not understand that! 


30 квіт. 2021, 12:2230.04.21
30 квіт. 2021, 13:21(edited)
10.07.14
342

The missives you would have free from events, so they were intentional cut out of the event so you had to spend sapphires (i.e. money effectively). As the mods replied, the event did actually state this.

Just proves the point of the whole thread reallly.

Disappointing isn't it.


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1 трав. 2021, 19:3601.05.21
1 трав. 2021, 19:36(edited)
04.10.13
3875
DJ Moody

The missives you would have free from events, so they were intentional cut out of the event so you had to spend sapphires (i.e. money effectively). As the mods replied, the event did actually state this.

Just proves the point of the whole thread reallly.

Disappointing isn't it.


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The 5 free ones you get each day also had increased chance.  If you collect them every day you get 35 over the course of the increased chance event.  I forget the exact numbers the chances changed to, but think that's good for 1-2 7th orders.  

6 трав. 2021, 16:4406.05.21
10.07.14
342

The event had a 3.5% drop rate on rank 7. 

As you get 5 chances per day at the thing, then you have a probability of 16% of getting 1 or more a day.

Depending on how many days the event runs your chance of getting rank 7's increases.  If it runs for 5 days then on average 41% of people will get no rank 7's and 59% of people will get 1.

Of course you need 2. The probaility of getting 2 or more rank 7's over 5 days is just under 22%.

So yeah you might be one of the lucky 5th of people who get it free to play. You are far more likely not to though. For the vast majority the experience of Lunar quests will be still one of not being able to complete them by simply playing the actually content.

(btw the drop rate on rank 6 was only a little higher and you need 5 of them, so rank 6 is actually the key blocker now - although I don't remember the drop rate from the event off hand to run the probailities for it)




MicAdmin
11 трав. 2021, 11:2611.05.21
22.02.19
1633

Well...what can i say , someone like it and someone don't...

I'm just happy because i finished another cycle 😍  I love the rewards a lot 😍!

Good luck and good game  to everyone !


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22 квіт. 2021, 13:4422.04.21
22.02.16
1845


i

Hopefully these new events will help with generating the 6 and 7 s  

Please note they do not effect the generation rates for the missives

13 трав. 2021, 15:5213.05.21
04.10.13
3875
Mic

Well...what can i say , someone like it and someone don't...

I'm just happy because i finished another cycle 😍  I love the rewards a lot 😍!

Good luck and good game  to everyone !


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Congratulations :)

21 квіт. 2021, 13:2521.04.21
20.02.17
107
DJ Moody

Interesting.

"Some players really don't get it." is a quote from the start of your post.

The arrogance of that is actually what led me to reply to your post. And then you edit your post to remove your arrogance and then call me arrogant.

Seriously unimpressed with your behaviour tbh.

And if your point is a tiny minority of players who are in top ranking leagues (all supported by mega coining btw - even if its not you yourself spending the money) get enough free sapphires to be able to waste them on champ quest refreshes, you really don't have much of a point other than saying "I am all right, I don't care".

And on a side note, using sapphires like that is one hugely ineffective use of sapphires compared to what they can be used for.



If you think i called you arrogant i appologise;was nt that my intention and English is not my native language(i dont touch translators as they can t help with expressions sometimes).I read again what you said and i realise now you spoke of a different think while i understood different and i took it personal-my fault.You are right-not easy at all to get those quests for many players but my point of view was personal and i really have no problem with this event since it was introduced.I want you to know just for record-i m NOT  a coiner megacoiner or whatever you may call it..but i do have something.. i m extremly activ and an active player can do lots of things even without spending money.But than again i speak of me.Appologies again Sir!

21 квіт. 2021, 13:1721.04.21
22.02.16
1845

As with all things there will be those that have not choosen to put themselves in a situation that maximizes their ability to gain the advantages of being in a advanced league that has bonuses for completing various activities that generate Sapphires. 

And  what people choose to use thier Sapphires on may not seem like a wise choice to some it seems to make sense to the sapphire holder. It doesn't make it unwise or wasteful it just means the priorities of that player are different than others and the choice is their's to make.

TBH when a person comes back consitently with the same Anti Coiner trope that they have had for many years it's easy to why some would say a person just doesn't get it . 

Maybe they just don't want to be in a league that tells them they must have Defense in beacons and fortress at a certain level  or they don't log in as often  or be active  in the league events as a league want's them to be.

for what ever reason I can tell you High preformace leagues are not a free ride they require players that want to preform well together and those that are active and play daily and add the the league as a whole  get the benifets of being active. 

All can say is if you can't beat them Join them but don't bother joining if your not going to preform up to the standards that league may have.  Because they don't cater to players that are just looking for a parking spot. 

20 квіт. 2021, 13:1420.04.21
10.07.14
342

Interesting.

"Some players really don't get it." is a quote from the start of your post.

The arrogance of that is actually what led me to reply to your post. And then you edit your post to remove your arrogance and then call me arrogant.

Seriously unimpressed with your behaviour tbh.

And if your point is a tiny minority of players who are in top ranking leagues (all supported by mega coining btw - even if its not you yourself spending the money) get enough free sapphires to be able to waste them on champ quest refreshes, you really don't have much of a point other than saying "I am all right, I don't care".

And on a side note, using sapphires like that is one hugely ineffective use of sapphires compared to what they can be used for.



19 квіт. 2021, 17:3919.04.21
20 квіт. 2021, 11:35(edited)
20.02.17
107
DJ Moody

"Some players really don't get it."

It's you that doesn't get it.

We know we can spend sapphires to complete the event. 

But making things impossible to complete without money it utterly cynical and tbh very lazy game design. It turns ppl off and in combination with many other similarly cynical elements is what causes ppl to leave the game and go play something else.

You can still make money out of a game without having to put brick walls into it that are insurmountable unless you spend money. You just have to put a little bit more effort and thought into how your monitise your product.

It's no conincidence that most servers in most versions of the games are now largely inactive, with very little going on.


Well  ..answering in this manner -a bit of arrogancy on your side -does nt change anything.. you make me smile ..i never missed moon quest  .. never .. and i never spend money for it....so you say TO me i don t get it???I spoke in general but you said it straight to me.. i might say to you as well "YOU dont get it DJ Moody"  or you are here just to contradict people over and over again??people who wants to help-do you feel happy by doing this maybe but i dont care.What you say is false as we gain lots of shappires from brawls and all events... enough to win those champ quests..more than enough... so IT IS possible to win those quests without money.. so who s does nt get it here?PS. I ve got 141k emmeraldes in stock so i would nt care of this event eventually.. maybe you are in more need of them.  PS.-edited-just won another of 7th grade.. in exchange for 160 shappires...

19 квіт. 2021, 12:3219.04.21
10.07.14
342

"Some players really don't get it."

It's you that doesn't get it.

We know we can spend sapphires to complete the event. 

But making things impossible to complete without money it utterly cynical and tbh very lazy game design. It turns ppl off and in combination with many other similarly cynical elements is what causes ppl to leave the game and go play something else.

You can still make money out of a game without having to put brick walls into it that are insurmountable unless you spend money. You just have to put a little bit more effort and thought into how your monitise your product.

It's no conincidence that most servers in most versions of the games are now largely inactive, with very little going on.