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Jun 13, 2018, 20:0906/13/18
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Strong Player Monopolizes Hamlet Sapphires

OK, this guy is a bigshot, kudos for him.  Level 123, Thunder of Synergy, leader of #1 league in Stormfall.


Not illegal to do, just unfair he is controlling almost the entire asset of Sapphires in the Hamlets.  So maybe out of 5 or 6 Hamlet sites for Sapphires, he controls almost all of them.  I mean, by control, he has such a massive defense on them that whatever you send to defeat just melts away.


Just think there should be limits, just sayin'.  There are other big level players, and they do not do that.


Was game designed with that intent??
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Jun 13, 2018, 20:3506/13/18
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hebroots said:


OK, this guy is a bigshot, kudos for him.  Level 123, Thunder of Synergy, leader of #1 league in Stormfall.


Not illegal to do, just unfair he is controlling almost the entire asset of Sapphires in the Hamlets.  So maybe out of 5 or 6 Hamlet sites for Sapphires, he controls almost all of them.  I mean, by control, he has such a massive defense on them that whatever you send to defeat just melts away.


Just think there should be limits, just sayin'.  There are other big level players, and they do not do that.


Was game designed with that intent??

Yes.... If you big enough you can do whatever you want and feel like. There is no rules against that.. This is a pay 2 win game, and Plariums focus is on get the players to spend as much as possible.. Buy troops, get bigger... do whatever.


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or a large enough defense on the hamlets reaps high enough pvp rewards to offset his losses so he thinks its worth it?


I don't play hamlets, cant be bothered you cannot hold them without putting massive defense in them so its not worth the effort for me to play them
Jun 14, 2018, 17:5606/14/18
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Or maybe he's just a shrewd coiner ...one who collects 18k in sapphires every day ... over 500k a month ... not too mention the tourney rewards and unit XP that are earned ...so while the 500k in sapphs every month may seem insignificant to others, I will gladly keep collecting it :)
Jun 15, 2018, 00:1406/15/18
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A coiner is a coiner is a coiner. You might have coined before but you're are still a coiner.

I know its embarrassing. But don't deny it. We all coined at sone point. 

No big deal. You holding that hamlet is a show of wallet power. Hey its a capitalist world. No big deal

But a coiner is a coiner is a coiner.
Jun 15, 2018, 07:5606/15/18
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Joan said:


Oracle said:


A coiner is a coiner is a coiner. You might have coined before but you're are still a coiner.

I know its embarrassing. But don't deny it. We all coined at sone point. 

No big deal. You holding that hamlet is a show of wallet power. Hey its a capitalist world. No big deal

But a coiner is a coiner is a coiner.
Was there a point you were trying to make or were you just trolling again??  I don't think coiners are embarrassed when they use their massive armies to wipe people out.

Precisely. I'd rather believe these hardworking, "non-coiner" hardcore grinders, with no real money to boot and therefore embarrassed max enough to face good players in real life with a successful income, able to progress the game a fair bit faster because they started later, so to bring themselves on level footing ground with again those hardcore "non-coiner" grinders.


Somehow I keep seeing these same sour grape jelly bean names up-in-arms against "coiner" (whatever this term they coin up meant). Good luck & have fun all!
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Thunder said:

Or maybe he's just a shrewd coiner ...one who collects 18k in sapphires every day ... over 500k a month ... not too mention the tourney rewards and unit XP that are earned ...so while the 500k in sapphs every month may seem insignificant to others, I will gladly keep collecting it :)
500k saphires a month for free does sound pretty nice :P  Couldn't do that on server 1 though, there are too many people with 1bil+ offense who lack enough sense to test hit before just slamming it into your hamlet. 
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Hunter said:

Joan said:


Oracle said:


A coiner is a coiner is a coiner. You might have coined before but you're are still a coiner.

I know its embarrassing. But don't deny it. We all coined at sone point. 

No big deal. You holding that hamlet is a show of wallet power. Hey its a capitalist world. No big deal

But a coiner is a coiner is a coiner.
Was there a point you were trying to make or were you just trolling again??  I don't think coiners are embarrassed when they use their massive armies to wipe people out.

Precisely. I'd rather believe these hardworking, "non-coiner" hardcore grinders, with no real money to boot and therefore embarrassed max enough to face good players in real life with a successful income, able to progress the game a fair bit faster because they started later, so to bring themselves on level footing ground with again those hardcore "non-coiner" grinders.


Somehow I keep seeing these same sour grape jelly bean names up-in-arms against "coiner" (whatever this term they coin up meant). Good luck & have fun all!
Bet we can guess which category you fall into then :P  I don't have any problem with coiners, somebody has to fund the game.  I do feel bad for the people who spend more money than they can afford on the game though (I've seen a few who've spent their life savings on it). 
Jun 17, 2018, 00:3306/17/18
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hamlets are PvP farms to. 



if you have 20 mil defense, throw it in watch the PvP  points rack up. 
Jun 17, 2018, 00:4106/17/18
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Can you explain how player coining "fund the game".

Where did you get this info. And how do they fund the game, which part. Do they pay operation fee, server fees, security fee? 

I haven't heard of a game that run exclusively on player coining. Even fortnite, which is the best game hands down. Even EVE, nor does candy crush
Jun 17, 2018, 03:1006/17/18
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IronApex said:


hamlets are PvP farms to. 



if you have 20 mil defense, throw it in watch the PvP  points rack up. 

High level players can play defense effectively, deploying aircraft carriers to defend oil harvesting hamlets and inviting equally strong challengers :D


Not only I have received superb customer service from Olga, but the brains behind this game have put some well thought out strategic elements into it.
Jun 17, 2018, 13:3806/17/18
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Hunter said:


IronApex said:


hamlets are PvP farms to. 



if you have 20 mil defense, throw it in watch the PvP  points rack up. 

High level players can play defense effectively, deploying aircraft carriers to defend oil harvesting hamlets and inviting equally strong challengers :D


Not only I have received superb customer service from Olga, but the brains behind this game have put some well thought out strategic elements into it.

Sometimes, I start ponder if Plarium got bots that respond to things on this forum :p


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Jun 17, 2018, 18:21(edited)
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Hunter said:


And of course only adults will read and understand real world events. Cant blame the kiddos ;p

You are insulting your own intelligence. You can't possible prove that you exist, so how are you going to prove you can comprehend reality.


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Oracle said:


Can you explain how player coining "fund the game".

Where did you get this info. And how do they fund the game, which part. Do they pay operation fee, server fees, security fee? 

I haven't heard of a game that run exclusively on player coining. Even fortnite, which is the best game hands down. Even EVE, nor does candy crush

How do you think Plarium gets the money to pay for equipment and their employees salaries?  Selling dragon dung as fertilizer?  I'm pretty sure it comes from players spending money on the game...

Jun 18, 2018, 14:1206/18/18
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The myth that online games fund their game exclusively from player spending has been debunked for a loong time.

There are a millions ways plarium make money. Like the recent selling of copyright to Australian company. Selling shares in global stock market, charging for intellectual property usage ect.

By my estimate plarium can't pay executive management from ingame purchase, never mind for advertising and pishing.

Jun 18, 2018, 17:1406/18/18
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djmoody said:


Oracle said:


Like the recent selling of copyright to Australian company.

Interested, I google to find out more but couldn't find anything. Only the sale of the company to Aristocrat, which I am sure we all know about now.

What was the copyright sale?

I don't think there is a row of Australians knocking on the door. I think its the actual sale of the company to Aristocrat he meant... which is a little more than just sell some copyright license. And in any case you can't account for that as income or revenue stream. Games such as this and other online games, base their revenue stream on the spending of the players in the game, and on merchandise around the game. Some games have merchandise such as clothes, action figures, posters and whatever...


If they don't directly run their games on facebook, at least they have either a set income from it, or a percentage of the revenue being made there. Probably the later...


Jun 18, 2018, 21:2906/18/18
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The conditions of the sale made it seem like copyright sale. Aristocrat  made no plan to run any administration   or activity on plarium. Nothing  has changed,  the executive is still the same, shaleel still run the show. So it wasn't a business purchase cause the terms made it seem otherwise. 

It   more of an income generation.

Plarium is also hosting games for other platforms on their servers, e.g Throne

Jun 19, 2018, 01:2106/19/18
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Oracle said:


The conditions of the sale made it seem like copyright sale. Aristocrat  made no plan to run any administration   or activity on plarium. Nothing  has changed,  the executive is still the same, shaleel still run the show. So it wasn't a business purchase cause the terms made it seem otherwise. 

It   more of an income generation.

Plarium is also hosting games for other platforms on their servers, e.g Throne

Are you really this dense? I mean... Take the latest E3 as a example and the presentation of Microsoft... They have aquired several game companies under their umbrella...  Why?`They want to strengthen their position with the xbox and have a better line up of coming games. Aristocrat seems to wanted to strengthen their mobile platform and Plarium was it, but probably they was eyeing up other companies as well. 


Aristrocat might have aquired Plarium for a set purpose, their mobile platform (tech, whatever), but doesn't necessary mean they want to start micro manage the company, or start some radical changes in how the company is run. They want to secure their investment and part of that is to keep the revenue streams going. Maybe they have some long term policy changes behind the scenes we don't know about, but for now, things what they are.


There is times when companies get bought and butchered. Like company hold patents or tech another want. They aquire the company, get what they want, and then sell off the remaining assets, unwanted tech, patents and so forth., Heck, earlier mentioned Microsoft done that a lot. Did you know Bill Gates was nicknamed "the gator" just because of this?
Jun 19, 2018, 19:0106/19/18
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Gadheras said:

djmoody said:


Oracle said:


Like the recent selling of copyright to Australian company.

Interested, I google to find out more but couldn't find anything. Only the sale of the company to Aristocrat, which I am sure we all know about now.

What was the copyright sale?

I don't think there is a row of Australians knocking on the door. I think its the actual sale of the company to Aristocrat he meant... which is a little more than just sell some copyright license. And in any case you can't account for that as income or revenue stream. Games such as this and other online games, base their revenue stream on the spending of the players in the game, and on merchandise around the game. Some games have merchandise such as clothes, action figures, posters and whatever...


If they don't directly run their games on facebook, at least they have either a set income from it, or a percentage of the revenue being made there. Probably the later...


Somehow I don't think plarium is making millions off selling shirts and mugs :P  Their income is based on user spending, either directly on their games or as a cut of the profits on other games that pay them royalties or hosting/management fees. 
Jun 20, 2018, 09:2706/20/18
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Oracle said:


Can you explain how player coining "fund the game".

Where did you get this info. And how do they fund the game, which part. Do they pay operation fee, server fees, security fee? 

I haven't heard of a game that run exclusively on player coining. Even fortnite, which is the best game hands down. Even EVE, nor does candy crush

When a game is "free to play" the money to pay for the servers, support teams, development team, etc has to come from somewhere.  Its logical to assume a good amount of that money comes from the optional purchases players make in the game.  These free to play games are not put out to the public as a charity or an act of kindness.  They use tried and true formulas to exploit human nature for profit.

From what I've read, the rise of free to play is a side effect of subscription fatigue.  Players got tired of having to pay to play, so the games had to find a new way to monetize their games...

Jun 21, 2018, 00:5006/21/18
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usually a large company like plarium is sold and the executives have to stay on to ensur fidelity of the company. they are required to stay for 1-5 years and only get their payment if the company remains profitible at the level it was when it was sold. 



that keeps dirty CEOs from gutting a company after its sold.