Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)
Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Oracle said:
The VIP situation is very discriminatory system that goes against all ethics of good gaming and breach customer service.
The secrecy behind this unfair system shows how iligal feature.
The only problem is that we gamers have no one to protect us against this form discrimination. No international law or body fight for us. This is even though we are making people like Shaleel rich.
Gamers are being taken for a ride, a billion dollars economy taken by a ride, and not a soul protect us.
Well places like Kotaku and other outlets similar like to write about such. If given the proper attention. Exposure and publicity is something that can work... :p
Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.
Hello all
i always have said that should be a established way for at least become to think to if you are inside the requisites for VIP programs
at this moment is alll so secret that nobody knows how you can be choosen or what u have to do if you want to become a VIP
5 years and 10 days playing, level 96 and no one day missing
Juglar del Viento said:
Hello all
i always have said that should be a established way for at least become to think to if you are inside the requisites for VIP programs
at this moment is alll so secret that nobody knows how you can be choosen or what u have to do if you want to become a VIP
5 years and 10 days playing, level 96 and no one day missing
Regards
Our leage marshal is VIP and he is an alt account ... but used to spend $7000 per month
Maybe all alt accounts and The Master should be given VIP status?
Any coiner can score 40k in every tournament while standing on their heads
Especially in the new Radioactive, Glow in the Dark tournaments we get now
Is this the Fallout from Chernobyl?
Top leagues are already scoring 4.7 million in the Fortress Showdown
We were told Forts would be next on plarium's hitlist
Fortress Showdown + Flag Tournaments = Broken Forts all across the map
and if you arent a VIP how do you go about getting this reward?Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.
With the amount of troops most of the VIP coiners are buying, I don't really think 81 wyverns is going to be what breaks the game balance... But it does seem unfair that they get free stuff the rest of us don't.Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Alina Phoenix said:
Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.
Alina,
We do the points ...but WE ARE NOT VIP!
THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC ...
I did 40,000 points and I sended the email...but no reward for me ...
Lord Mark said:
Alina Phoenix said:
Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.Alina,
We do the points ...but WE ARE NOT VIP!
THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC ...
I did 40,000 points and I sended the email...but no reward for me ...
My Lord, these Rewards are given to the members of VIP program at the initiative of their agents.
One of the main benefits of this program is that you have a high-quality dedicated support service and your agent can give you such additional Bonuses.
Plus, the amount of such Bonuses is strictly limited to be sure it doesn't affect the game balance in any way.
Alina Phoenix said:
Lord Mark said:
Alina Phoenix said:
Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.Alina,
We do the points ...but WE ARE NOT VIP!
THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC ...
I did 40,000 points and I sended the email...but no reward for me ...
My Lord, these Rewards are given to the members of VIP program at the initiative of their agents.
One of the main benefits of this program is that you have a high-quality dedicated support service and your agent can give you such additional Bonuses.
Plus, the amount of such Bonuses is strictly limited to be sure it doesn't affect the game balance in any way.
Ok Alina,
If this bonuses doesn't affect the game balance in any way ...give us that amount!and again, how do i get this benefit of this program?Lord Mark said:
Alina Phoenix said:
Snowgoon said:
Another kick in the teeth for 'normal' players
VIP get 81 FREE Dark Wyverns and all they need to do is participate in tournaments - This is in ADDITION to their normal tournament rewards
(ignore the 541 boosts, it was a typo meant to say 5 boosts)Has this been allowed to go too far? How does this maintain game balance?
Hello.
To get this Reward they don't need just participate in the Tournament, they need to receive the required number of points either in one Tournament or in both of them. These Rewards won't be added just if you start participating.Alina,
We do the points ...but WE ARE NOT VIP!
THAT IS THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC ...
I did 40,000 points and I sended the email...but no reward for me ...
My Lord, these Rewards are given to the members of VIP program at the initiative of their agents.
One of the main benefits of this program is that you have a high-quality dedicated support service and your agent can give you such additional Bonuses.
Plus, the amount of such Bonuses is strictly limited to be sure it doesn't affect the game balance in any way.
IronApex Turok said:
and again, how do i get this benefit of this program?
Hi, all!
Each player has a chance to join the VIP program, if he's active in the game, has a high experience and influence in the communities. These are the main but not the only criteria.
Oracle said:
LoL, Alina you seem to overuse the word balance.
Your definition of balance here seems to suggest that this balance is at the mercy of VIP agent and their agent.
At this stage I am confused, can you explain how balanced is the game after this VIP deal was struck.
This deal seems to suggest that VIP players are getting preferrential treatment as form of extra reward.
Giving certain players over quarter a million offence for doing the most easiest grind is not fair. If you consider how long it takes to build 250K offence you can see how this gifts do to balance.
Hi, Oracle! My name is Paul, and I'm a new Community Manager :) My pleasure to meet you!
Of course, even 1 Dark Wyvern influences the game balance in this or that way. But the VIP team strives to make sure this advantage is not too significant as compared to other players.
Paul Gladkiy said:
IronApex Turok said:
and again, how do i get this benefit of this program?Hi, all!
Each player has a chance to join the VIP program, if he's active in the game, has a high experience and influence in the communities. These are the main but not the only criteria.
Well, from what we seen its the hard work of use your credit card, that earn you a vip. Many players around that spent a lot time in the game, and have more experience with the game and know better than the devs how mechanics work and vip still a faint dream. And then there is clueless noobies with a heavy credit card that get on the program, but of course as you said. They come under the "other criterias"... :p
Hi PauL, I am Oracle. I love this game. As a former mod, less/no bans= happy forum.
Don't try against all evidence to argue for the VIP program. It must fall, that message we are putting through you to developers. They must kill the vip programme or we will kill em.
Will you quit crying about something you obviously know nothing about. You are not making a difference only making yourself look jealous of those who have something you do not. I did not earn VIP by weilding a credit card I have worked hard for it, participating in forums, chat, working with players to improve their game as well as taking an active part to be in th challenges & tournies, its a lot more than $$. Speaking of coin, in fact its those of us who spend some coin who pay for the game to keep going for you people who do not pay. You seem to think VIPs get all these extra goodies yet you are not a VIP and so it leads me to ask just how do you know what a VIP gets that you do not.
You complain about game balance... VIPS have extra challenges that are often hard to meet the goals on to get a measly 81 dark Wyverns.. 40k pvp minimum & 40k in BGS.. do you really think those 81 dark wyverns are worth the troops loss? When I read this all i hear is a grown man or woman crying like a little kid over a lollipop. Instead of wearing out your keyboard complaining about not being VIP how about you take action to become a VIP?? Hmmm... or does that make too much sense?
Another thought, don't you have VIP and coiners in your league? Do you ban or treat them differently, maybe kick them out of the league because they have a status that you don't?
want to find me to teach me to mind my manners? -70/41. Srvr 2, untamed lands see ya soon
fionajune said:
Will you quit crying about something you obviously know nothing about. You are not making a difference only making yourself look jealous of those who have something you do not. I did not earn VIP by weilding a credit card I have worked hard for it, participating in forums, chat, working with players to improve their game as well as taking an active part to be in th challenges & tournies, its a lot more than $$. Speaking of coin, in fact its those of us who spend some coin who pay for the game to keep going for you people who do not pay. You seem to think VIPs get all these extra goodies yet you are not a VIP and so it leads me to ask just how do you know what a VIP gets that you do not.
You complain about game balance... VIPS have extra challenges that are often hard to meet the goals on to get a measly 81 dark Wyverns.. 40k pvp minimum & 40k in BGS.. do you really think those 81 dark wyverns are worth the troops loss? When I read this all i hear is a grown man or woman crying like a little kid over a lollipop. Instead of wearing out your keyboard complaining about not being VIP how about you take action to become a VIP?? Hmmm... or does that make too much sense?
Another thought, don't you have VIP and coiners in your league? Do you ban or treat them differently, maybe kick them out of the league because they have a status that you don't?
want to find me to teach me to mind my manners? -70/41. Srvr 2, untamed lands see ya soon
Part of the problem is that VIP is a secret society shrouded in mystery and devs refuse to answer any questions
40k is an easy milestone for top players and the rewards are there for all - so why give EXTRA to VIP for free?
and the 81 dark wyverns are only the tip of the iceberg - many other units are given away .... or only available to VIP like the Golden Dragons, Prestige Dragons etc
You started in 2017 and given VIP? Maybe you were more active on facebook
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Many players have been here since 2013 or before, which is why they are so angry being treated like serfs and peasants, being ignored and lied-to on a daily basis
I might be a "rookie" big whoop, boy you hurt my feelings, maybe its good idea for some of you old dogs to listen to "rookies" you know you guys get stuck in your ways, and think you know everything about everything
Yes I was marshal for about 6 months before I decided hmm that being marshal meant I was limited in what I could do. Its an overrated thankless job. I made a move to a better fit for me. Tell you the truth don't miss it, and don't envy anyone who is a marshal. some are comfortable being in charge, putting out fires, dealing with diplomacy, more power to them. No skin of my hide. I can raid top my hearts content and as long as I don't overstep my bounds I have no chains. While I was marshal Integrity did pretty good, climbed in rank had quite a bit of influence, but hey this isn't a discussion on my tenure is it?
Its a discussion about the VIP program and how some are in and some are not and how that twists some people's underpinnings snd just like you I have an opinion. Might not be in line or popular but I never claimed to be a conformist.
fionajune said:
I might be a "rookie" big whoop, boy you hurt my feelings, maybe its good idea for some of you old dogs to listen to "rookies" you know you guys get stuck in your ways, and think you know everything about everything
Yes I was marshal for about 6 months before I decided hmm that being marshal meant I was limited in what I could do. Its an overrated thankless job. I made a move to a better fit for me. Tell you the truth don't miss it, and don't envy anyone who is a marshal. some are comfortable being in charge, putting out fires, dealing with diplomacy, more power to them. No skin of my hide. I can raid top my hearts content and as long as I don't overstep my bounds I have no chains. While I was marshal Integrity did pretty good, climbed in rank had quite a bit of influence, but hey this isn't a discussion on my tenure is it?
Its a discussion about the VIP program and how some are in and some are not and how that twists some people's underpinnings snd just like you I have an opinion. Might not be in line or popular but I never claimed to be a conformist.
right... and you are bragging about your "hard work" that got you into the VIP program. I dont see any kind of record anything near what some of the veterans can show. so i wonder, why you feel the need to chime in. unless you have something to add to the conversation.
do you have info on the requirements?
can you confirm the requirements to join the VIP?
what specific tasks should one focus on to earn the VIP status?
other than your credit card, what do you think is our most valuable asset to plarium?
Paul Gladkiy said:
IronApex Turok said:
and again, how do i get this benefit of this program?Hi, all!
Each player has a chance to join the VIP program, if he's active in the game, has a high experience and influence in the communities. These are the main but not the only criteria.
Ya right ....Like we are all idouts :)
I am an high player ...I am max BG...I Do pvp...and no VIP.
And I have friends that Coin much...lower score ...and they are VIP.
So please tell us how much we must to spend for that red Castle...and finish the ****!fionajune said:
Yes I was made VIP about 6 months into the game, right around time I became Marshal of an established league. I figure it was just good luck, it wasn't soemthing I was planning on or looking for; I was just enjoying the game and one day I was invited to it and I accepted, why not? I get expedited service when it comes to bugs/issues, and guess what I use it to help those who are having problems! The challenges.. unfortunately I haven't been able to match those milestones they set... but then again I weight the reward against the risk and more often than not the risk is very high and not worth the reward, and VIPS are not only competing in the regualr challenges we are competing against other VIPS for those little rewards, and much of the competition is a lot stiffer than the regualr tournies. ....
oh and the packages they offer... much more expensive than those not offered to VIP, and not as beneficial. Sometimes, once in a great while we are asked our opinions on game features or to try a new troop. IMO this doesn't ruin game balance as there will always be someone stronger, more predatory with a bigger army no matter if I am VIP or not.
So, when I see a post basically cutting those that have VIP status or player who are using some of THEIR money to enhance their enjoyment of THEIR game it kinda irks me. This game isn't a game of all for one and for all.. how dare anybody slam another for spending their money on what they want? IF the game were completely "balanced" we would all be the same level and advance at the same time and we would lose the challenge of trying to outdo the next guy.
Do you complain and cry to the government because you didn't win the lottery but your neighbor did?
Anything that some people got and others didn't without any explanation, the ones who didn't get it aren't going to be happy.
Most of us aren't upset if other people choose to spend money on the game, but it does bother us if somebody else gets better deals than we do (From what I've seen the VIPs get more expensive offers, but if you compare how much they get per $ spent compared to non-VIPs the VIPs get a lot more).
