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13 янв. 2016, 16:2713.01.16
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New Items Now Available!

New Items Now Available At The Black Market!

Gain An Advantage In Warfare And Spying!

My Lords and Ladies,

The Elders of the Realm have released new Items to make your quest to rule Stormfall easier than ever before!

Behold!

Weor's Protection. This Item protects you from any Offensive Action launched against you. Your enemies shall be unable to Raid, invoke Sorcery Spells, Besiege, or dispatch Spies against you so long as this Item is active. Activating Weor's Protection allows you to take a deep breath and manage your Castle without worrying about being attacked.

Spy Protection. This Item protects you from being Spied upon. Your enemies won't be able to dispatch Spies against you while this Item is active. Use Spy Protection to keep your secrets safely hidden within your Castle walls.

You can get these Items at the Black Market (Go to the "Special" section of the “Misc” tab).

Keep a watchful eye on the news, my Lord. New alchemical advances are constantly being made, so more innovations are sure to be available soon!

Lord Oberon

Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall

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13 янв. 2016, 17:2413.01.16
13 янв. 2016, 19:03(edited)
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Invokers said:


Lord Oberon said:


New Items Now Available At The Black Market!

Gain An Advantage In Warfare And Spying!

My Lords and Ladies,

The Elders of the Realm have released new Items to make your quest to rule Stormfall easier than ever before!

Behold!

Weor's Protection. This Item protects you from any Offensive Action launched against you. Your enemies shall be unable to Raid, invoke Sorcery Spells, Besiege, or dispatch Spies against you so long as this Item is active. Activating Weor's Protection allows you to take a deep breath and manage your Castle without worrying about being attacked.

Spy Protection. This Item protects you from being Spied upon. Your enemies won't be able to dispatch Spies against you while this Item is active. Use Spy Protection to keep your secrets safely hidden within your Castle walls.

You can get these Items at the Black Market (Go to the "Special" section of the “Misc” tab).

Keep a watchful eye on the news, my Lord. New alchemical advances are constantly being made, so more innovations are sure to be available soon!

Lord Oberon

Heir of Veyon, Scion of the Firstborn, Lord Regent of Stormfall

Seriously!!! Spy protection.


And then we hear that "Change the rank at which beacon defense is visible" and some other updates are very high on priority in list of updates but in reality plarium is spending the limited resources on bringing these stupid updates. It is extremely difficult to fathom.


EDIT: And why is it even named weor's protection when it is protection against all offensive actions? In the name of bringing something against "Wrath of Weor" plarium has poured their wrath on players.

Come on now, they changing how the game works to encourage more pvp... lulz...


Oh and, this guy would probably make a nice review of Stormfall too if asked, lol @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCDERfGV8kY

14 янв. 2016, 02:3514.01.16
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These changes are terrible for the game.  You seriously need to hire a consultant to give you advice on how to keep players, if you have one fire them immediately and roll back all changes for the past 6 months and then bring in players that will give you advice on what we would like to see. 


Terrible just terrible travesty of what was a great game. I'm over 480 straight days of logging in, I can see that coming to an end in the near future. 
14 янв. 2016, 02:5814.01.16
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I still cant believe what Plarium did.

We asked/pleased for some protection of coiners, stupid or not stupid doesn't matter, suggesting Lord Oberon what is the way to do that keeping Plariums need for real money.

And Plarium just did opposite of that. It gave coiners so strong tool(s) that all our (old proven non-coiner players) efforts in building castles, planning battles and units became simple nothing. Now, every coiner from any level and any quantity/quality of knowledge can devastate us without no penalty (money for coiners isn't penal).

At same time, all problems with FBs are kept, including idiot's trick with new alts which could spent all starting sapps for only one thing (with no real money cost!!!): to test our nerves and destroy our units with FBs. After that alt will be abandoned, new will be created, and so on.

With this change, every big coiner became stronger than Lord Oberon, first of ... (if I would write what I really want this post will be deleted, so guess on your own).

Plarium, what did you?

14 янв. 2016, 03:0914.01.16
26 окт. 2020, 12:00(edited)
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We need to get our leagues to get in here and give their opinion good or bad for the new changes.  I like being married and these new changes if i wanted to compete would just cause me get divorced.  LOL 


I starting dropping F bombs in another threat but decided it was not worth it. 
14 янв. 2016, 10:2714.01.16
14 янв. 2016, 10:46(edited)
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I don't think you quite get it..... but its nice to see players get active on the forums -)


I don't have big enough crayons to draw you big enough picture to understand, but hey, I got a feeling my leauge will depart from Stormfall for greener pastures.


Thumbs up and +1 for alienate your players. Good work.



14 янв. 2016, 13:3914.01.16
14 янв. 2016, 15:46(edited)
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Fransis Fran said:


You can't be f serious plarium. You keep on brining one absurd update after the other and there seems to be no end to it. Instead of resolving insane amount of bugs that are present in the game you guys are bringing these kind of updates. This is insane.



Gadheras said:


I don't think you quite get it..... but its nice to see players get active on the forums -)


I don't have big enough crayons to draw you big enough picture to understand, but hey, I got a feeling my leauge will depart from Stormfall for greener pastures.


Thumbs up and +1 for alienate your players. Good work.

Share the other greener pastures here, so everyone knows what other better options are there for everyone.



Please don't  advertising third parties on this forum is not advised and could get you banned.


14 янв. 2016, 13:4614.01.16
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mrfreezzzz said:

and if you think it'd be unwise to spend 2000saps, then why did you create them in the first place??


I din't say it would be unwise. I said it's only for you to decide. I can imagine a situation where I would use this item, for instance. And a situation where I wouldn't, too.
14 янв. 2016, 14:5714.01.16
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i didn't see a single positive feebdack after the latest additions to the game. that alone should be plenty enough to make you wonder about it...

Believe me, my Lord, I've made my conclusions. The forum community has explicitly stated its dissatisfaction with the items that we have released. This point has been taken by the Stormfall team and we will do our utmost to ensure that we do better next time. Thank you all Lords and Ladies for expressing how you feel. It's really important for us to know that you care about the game and its future as much as we do.

14 янв. 2016, 15:1514.01.16
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Lord Oberon said:

i didn't see a single positive feebdack after the latest additions to the game. that alone should be plenty enough to make you wonder about it...

Believe me, my Lord, I've made my conclusions. The forum community has explicitly stated its dissatisfaction with the items that we have released. This point has been taken by the Stormfall team and we will do our utmost to ensure that we do better next time. 

Similar to how you have done better (in terms of increasingly worse updates) this time around as well. Right?
14 янв. 2016, 15:2914.01.16
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I dont see how these updates has destroyed the game, can someone please share the "bigger picture" with me


and what are the insane amount of bugs? i have yet to come across one, although it is my first week playing.
14 янв. 2016, 22:4814.01.16
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i am one of those , who some people call coiner. not the biggest one but big enough to be top 100 money spender. 

still i think, plarium developers using head for holding hat only. it is worst  "improvement" i seen here. that is not the game, what i started to play more than year ago. i seriously consider quitting. i want play wargame, where everyone has chance, not wargame won by money. i could keep my castle protected for ever, but then , where is fun to play??? 
18 янв. 2016, 02:5918.01.16
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Just my 2 cents worth.  This change pushes PvP away from castles and more onto settlements, fiefs, and hamlets.  I can see some utility to it.  It might be nice to have protection when you can't be online to spend down resources and cata your troops.  To me, it looks more like vacation insurance or protection while at work than something one would want to use perpetually.  

For those who can afford it, it may also be a convenient way to thwart repeat attackers that are too strong for you to hit.  

I strongly suggest putting some sort of limit on this item.  As others have already stated, this game is built on PvP.  Items that protect you from the core mechanics of the game are not a good idea.  My suggestion is this:  While under protection, players cannot raid, siege, or take any action that involves troops leaving your castle.  Any troops outside your castle will be unable to return until the protection wears off.  
20 янв. 2016, 00:2520.01.16
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When you have catacombs need for such protection of 1 day isn't big thing.

But, if you really want protection for vacation, every normal game offers you vacation days per year. For free!!!

Simple, you have some button for activating such state and you're free to go.

In this game, greed is dominant thing, and I expect that we will soon get new items such as "if you want to breathe while you're playing, become professional player and buy X for 2K per day, or a fantastic similar item of 10K for the whole week".


29 янв. 2016, 11:0429.01.16
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will It be easy

29 янв. 2016, 11:3129.01.16
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No, it won't be easy, my Lord. 
20 янв. 2016, 13:3320.01.16
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Red said:

Important question:  If there is already a raid or siege incoming, will putting on protection thwart the attack?  

I'm hoping the answer is no since once can already teleport to escape attack and since being able to just pop protection the second you see something coming would make it very hard to catch those who abuse it unaware.

The one time I can see someone logging daily to put on protection is when on vacation.  If you're spending time with friends/family or enjoying being a tourist, you won't be spending much time in game.  Protection can help prevent becoming someone's favorite farm while you're focused on having fun in real life.

You can put on your protection when you see an incoming siege or raid. At the same time it will be hard to abuse the protection due to its cost. We expect players to use the protection wisely once in a while, only when absolutely necessary and certainly not daily. For vacations I'd recommend using Catacombs, they won't protect all of your resources of course, but it's nothing that can't be fixed.
19 янв. 2016, 23:0419.01.16
19 янв. 2016, 23:07(edited)
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Lord Oberon said:


I strongly suggest putting some sort of limit on this item.

My Lord, we have created as many limits as possible on this item. It can stay active for only up to 24 hours, the protection does not stack up, and by conducting any aggressive actions you lose your protection. You cannot activate the protection when your units are underway. I can't imagine a situation where a player would just log into the game to renew the protection daily and not attempt any military actions whatsoever. Players using the protection can still be caught unawares. 


I haven't used the item and was basing my comments on your description of the item.  Your initial description did not mention those limitations.  I'm glad to hear that it does have some limits.  The item could still be abused to harass others, but at least there is a chance of catching them without protection.

Important question:  If there is already a raid or siege incoming, will putting on protection thwart the attack?  

I'm hoping the answer is no since once can already teleport to escape attack and since being able to just pop protection the second you see something coming would make it very hard to catch those who abuse it unaware.

The one time I can see someone logging daily to put on protection is when on vacation.  If you're spending time with friends/family or enjoying being a tourist, you won't be spending much time in game.  Protection can help prevent becoming someone's favorite farm while you're focused on having fun in real life.

18 янв. 2016, 09:5218.01.16
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I strongly suggest putting some sort of limit on this item.

My Lord, we have created as many limits as possible on this item. It can stay active for only up to 24 hours, the protection does not stack up, and by conducting any aggressive actions you lose your protection. You cannot activate the protection when your units are underway. I can't imagine a situation where a player would just log into the game to renew the protection daily and not attempt any military actions whatsoever. Players using the protection can still be caught unawares. 


18 янв. 2016, 02:4318.01.16
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golemisolon said:


I dont see how these updates has destroyed the game, can someone please share the "bigger picture" with me


and what are the insane amount of bugs? i have yet to come across one, although it is my first week playing.

People don't like these updates because it is a very big advantage for $ players. How much fun do you think it would be to be repeatedly attacked by someone who is perpetually under protection?  I don't think it will really be game breaking.  Some players may abuse it by attacking while being perpetually under protection (heck, it may be cheaper to pay for Weor's protection than to flat out buy def and spies).  I suspect the cost will keep most players from being under protection non stop.  I also suspect the fact that it earns you no points in tournaments will also help curb abuse.  If you were a big $ player with tons of troops and in a PvP tournament, would you use an item that would reduce the points you earn?


Biggest annoying bugs I see are troops spontaneously vanishing and boosts where item is consumed but boost does not work.  Both are fairly uncommon but do happen from time to time.  Hard part is getting any form of compensation when it does happen.  Its hard to prove that it happened since the items/troops in question are gone and unless you screenshot your game every day, you have no way to prove that you owned them in the first place.  


18 янв. 2016, 02:2818.01.16
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Lord Oberon said:


Seems like everyone didn't actually pay attention to the fact that all these items can be obtained using Soulstones. It's supposed to be like this: you win at Tournaments, get Soulstones and buy items for them if you wish. 


Yes, these items can be bought for Sapphires (why not?) But are you willing to use your 2000 Sapphires to protect your castle for one day? Would that be a wise decision? It's only for you to decide. 


I can see this as a good and a bad thing.  It does allow a player with a big wallet to attack with impunity, for a price.  The cost of being perpetually invulnerable is high, but I'm pretty sure there are players who could easily afford it if so inclined.  Whether or not it becomes a fun killer is hard to predict, it depends on how many players use it and how they choose to use it.

I can see it as nice "vacation insurance" if you have the soul stones (or $) and know you won't be able to log for a few days.  Spending for that might make the game more enjoyable than becoming someone's favorite farm while you're away.  

Questions about how it works:  

1) If you use one when at attack is inbound, does it keep the attack from hitting you?  

2) Is there a maximum?  What I mean is whether someone can perpetually be invulnerable or is there a waiting period between uses or after a certain number of uses (teleport makes you wait before moving again)?

3) Are you able to attack others while under this protection?  If players can, I'd suggest changing it so that players can't.  I have no problem with people wanting protection when they can't play, but being hit repeatedly by people who buy perpetual invulnerability would get old fairly fast.